Agressive table, and no cards.
Hi, I was just wondering how would you guys play a table full of hyper-agressives, and tight-agressives, with everyone holding a much bigger stack than yours, and you never get dealt anything.
This happened to me at the Brantford Winter Classic final day for the $1500 buy-in. I became the short stack at the table, but not too short compared to the blinds. 400/800a75 with a 24,000 stack.
The chip leader of the whole tournament was at my table, sitting at about 150k+, there was another chip leader with like 110k+, most people there had about 60-80k in chips, and the other low stacks had doubled up with their hyper agressive play.
When the table is too tight, I play more agressive, when it's too agressive, I play tight and set traps. It's just this time I wasn't able to in the entire 4.5 hours I was in for the tournament.
The chip leaders where constantly setting me all in on the flop, and trapping me with their sets that they flopped (which I carefully was able to avoid everytime). The weak players were raising 6-7 times the BB, and betting half their stack with top pair-med kicker on the flop against a pre-flop raiser.
Everytime I raised, someone went over the top of me. There was rarely an unopened pot preflop. And I was completely card dead. I'm just wondering what would you guys do in this kind of situation?
Well the end result for me was that I eventually got blinded out. On my last hand I was in BB with just over 2 times the BB, when I was all in with 3 5 offsuit, small blind put me all in with his 2 4 offsuit. Most likely we would've chopped it, but he spiked a 2 on the turn and busted me. I was actually going to push all-in in my previous BB, but SB moved in with AK when chip leader raised with 66, and I had A8offsuit, I folded, flop was 2 4 6 K 10, I would've lost anyways, and after that, I got 23, 23, 37, 95, J2, Q3, etc, and there was an early position raise each time so I couldn't even push and be the one opening the pot for a raise.
This happened to me at the Brantford Winter Classic final day for the $1500 buy-in. I became the short stack at the table, but not too short compared to the blinds. 400/800a75 with a 24,000 stack.
The chip leader of the whole tournament was at my table, sitting at about 150k+, there was another chip leader with like 110k+, most people there had about 60-80k in chips, and the other low stacks had doubled up with their hyper agressive play.
When the table is too tight, I play more agressive, when it's too agressive, I play tight and set traps. It's just this time I wasn't able to in the entire 4.5 hours I was in for the tournament.
The chip leaders where constantly setting me all in on the flop, and trapping me with their sets that they flopped (which I carefully was able to avoid everytime). The weak players were raising 6-7 times the BB, and betting half their stack with top pair-med kicker on the flop against a pre-flop raiser.
Everytime I raised, someone went over the top of me. There was rarely an unopened pot preflop. And I was completely card dead. I'm just wondering what would you guys do in this kind of situation?
Well the end result for me was that I eventually got blinded out. On my last hand I was in BB with just over 2 times the BB, when I was all in with 3 5 offsuit, small blind put me all in with his 2 4 offsuit. Most likely we would've chopped it, but he spiked a 2 on the turn and busted me. I was actually going to push all-in in my previous BB, but SB moved in with AK when chip leader raised with 66, and I had A8offsuit, I folded, flop was 2 4 6 K 10, I would've lost anyways, and after that, I got 23, 23, 37, 95, J2, Q3, etc, and there was an early position raise each time so I couldn't even push and be the one opening the pot for a raise.
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That sucks sir a very frustrating situation. I don't pretend to know more than you but here is how I generally play it:
When I am the short stack and my M is in the range of 5-7 I pick a hand with some showdown value and get my money in the middle (A8 and above, any broadway, any pair). You should have some fold equity still at this point (however maybe not at this table!). I figure I need some luck to recover from this situation anyway so why not ask the poker gods for help when one double up is going to get me back to where I have some breathing room.
Sorry to hear that your day didn't go that well. Better luck next time!
Caddy
Your situation sucks but you obviously avoided a lot of traps and probably played extremely well for the situation.
Better luck next time.
I know from experience that many of these players simply CANNOT be bluffed, so I went into my last game with the notion of only playing premium hands or raising when I was SURE I sensed weakness. The distint problems being; I got garbage hands and every player was as gung-ho as ever. I won a few pots, but was down a decent bit overall and the blinds were starting to climb. I got pocket 10's and called a fairly big raise (a raise that, in this game, was very often backed by something like Q-9). Flop came 10-9-2, two diamonds. Now, I might have placed a bet here in your standard game, but I knew the player I was facing was completely unsophisticated and would place a large bet if I checked regardless of his hand. He did, and I called. Turn came another diamond. I checked. He bet again. I pushed. He called, and of course had made the flush with his suited K-7. I would have played this differently against a different player, but I knew he would bet out like that whether he had hit or not.