Allright.. you're right Shannon.. there is no reason... I have to work out a thing or two, and I have a question
It was put to me that (aside from pre-KWGM qualifiers), I should make this an invitational event, is there any disagreement to this? Do you guys trust me to pick players that would make for a challenging, but fun event? Namely my criteria would be:
A: Skill - player must have shown a relative level of competance
B: Competitive, but not asshole - pretty simple
C: Availability - no subs anymore.. all or none
Allright.. you're right Shannon.. there is no reason... I have to work out a thing or two, and I have a question
It was put to me that (aside from pre-KWGM qualifiers), I should make this an invitational event, is there any disagreement to this? Do you guys trust me to pick players that would make for a challenging, but fun event? Namely my criteria would be:
A: Skill - player must have shown a relative level of competance
B: Competitive, but not asshole - pretty simple
C: Availability - no subs anymore.. all or none
But will Mark judge me worthy or not? Should I submit a resume?
Do I need references?
I think a lot of us want to play, I love playing against the best in KW, we have an abundance of talent here...but it's Mark's thing and with such a deep pool of talent whoever he picks and however he picks them, they will all be good choices. Satellites and all that just prolong things, pick the group and then may the bets player win!
I"m not sure how I'll pick people, but I'd love to see a poker resume!
Mine:
Mark Breaton
Education: Super System series, Harrington on Hold ' Em series, Phil Gordon's Green and Blue Book, Sklansky's theory of poker
Experience: 2 years of "serious" playing
Notable accomplishments
Winner - Bristol Street Championship (XXIII?)
Winner - KPS Tournament of Champions
Winner - Westside Poker Club January 2007
Runner-up - KWGM I
Runner-up - KPS "Grudge Match Rip-off"
Hobbies: Man-flirting, online-donking, and pants-free poker.
Winner - Bristol Street Championship (XXIII?)
Winner - KPS Tournament of Champions
Winner - Westside Poker Club January 2007
Runner-up - KWGM I
Runner-up - KPS "Grudge Match Rip-off"
KPS TOC should be in BOLD due to its ridonkulous prestige. And it's Grudge Match WANNABE, rip-off makes it sound cheap
I have a feeling that there will be a lot of Resumes.
Andrew Salter
Education: Sklanky's Tournament for Advanced Players, Phil Gordon's Black Book, TJ Cloutier, Sklansky's Theory of Poker, Harrington on Hold'Em, Mark Beaton's Poker Articles!!!!, Devin Armstrong on the recently cancelled but still loved PNL
Experience: Learned poker as a child but started playing for real 3 years ago.
Accomplishments: Bristol Street Champion (XXIV??)
Bristol Street Runner Up (XXsomething)
Bristol Street 10 Ten Players of 2006
3rd Bristol Street Tournament of Champs 2006
3rd KPS event at some point
Eater of Babies
Winner of a Poker Stars Tournament for $430 or so
Made Mark Beaton Fold pocket 5s and he would have flopped quads
Member of HBK
Beat the Pants off my friends at home games (fits into pantless poker)
Hobbies: I Act as recently seen in "Moonchildren" playing TONIGHT, Tommorrow and Saturday in St. Jacobs. We were reviewed in the Record. I even sort of get mentioned! Well my character does. I have recently been addicted to World of Warcraft. I eat babies, but I mentioned that above.
Why I would be an asset: Someone needs to be first out at the first match. That'd be me. But I'll win the second one. I have a lovely singing voice that I have showcased at Cook Crew events. My rash has cleared up and the doctor says I am no longer contagious as long as I keep applying the cream. I know that 78 is a great hand.
I know the purpose of the grudge match is to be a series of matches against the same people, but is there a way to increase the # of participants and keep the flavour the same, borrowing a bit from PokerSuperstars
For example;
18 people start, each put in $20 to play three pre-lim matches on dates pre-determined.
Each night the group splits into 3 groups of 6 and points are awarded each game (10, 7, 5, 3, 1, 0). Each winner of each pre-lim gets $40. This leaves us break-even cashwise when we get to the finals.
The top ten point earners, move on, and KWGMIII starts in earnest. Pay your $120, play three matches to earn chips for the final game, etc.
To play devil's advocate, is this too much poker for the money invested? Should the pre-lims be a little more pricey? Why can't I leave a perfectly good tournament structure alone?
Anyway, regardless of how you choose to run, it, my recommendation is to pick dates before you accept "applications" and see who's really available to play.
Although I like idea of having a larger field and the recommendations present would work well, I would put my vote for the same format.
I like that we play 4 consecutive games against a table of all the same players - I think that is what truley makes it a grudge match. By the Final Game nearly everyone has made at least one donkey call against someone else and sucked out huge - which adds to the flavour of the final game.
Can't wait for it to start - this will be my 3rd and it is a hell of a series!
I know the purpose of the grudge match is to be a series of matches against the same people, but is there a way to increase the # of participants and keep the flavour the same, borrowing a bit from PokerSuperstars
I think you're correct - the whole purpose of the KWGM is to be against the same players. However, "taylodan" is trying to organize a 24-person SuperStars-style league (see http://pokerforum.ca/showthread.php?t=11408).
Thanks for the input... I brainstormed a lot with you when first setting this up, and although I do like the idea of a bigger field, I have to admit that the SNG aspect of the game makes it unique...
This doesn't mean that someone (cough cough Bristol street cough cough) couldn't run something similar.... a friday night league perhaps?
Mark
P.S. BTW Zithal, if you want in KWGM 3 that bad, just put up a resume!
Comments
/g2
Jeff, you can alway bunk with one of Gregs' sexy roommates!
It was put to me that (aside from pre-KWGM qualifiers), I should make this an invitational event, is there any disagreement to this? Do you guys trust me to pick players that would make for a challenging, but fun event? Namely my criteria would be:
A: Skill - player must have shown a relative level of competance
B: Competitive, but not asshole - pretty simple
C: Availability - no subs anymore.. all or none
Sound good?
Mark
Now get on with it
I guess Shannon can't play under A , B and C..
Meh.. he monied last time, so he's earned his was in already.
Mark
I actually didn't money, I bubbled which still qualifies
stp
Glad you're back! You were instrumental in helping me to win the last one
So I can [bats eyes at Mark] play in KWGM 4!
/g2
But will Mark judge me worthy or not? Should I submit a resume?
Do I need references?
I think a lot of us want to play, I love playing against the best in KW, we have an abundance of talent here...but it's Mark's thing and with such a deep pool of talent whoever he picks and however he picks them, they will all be good choices. Satellites and all that just prolong things, pick the group and then may the bets player win!
p.s. that said....you're WORTHY!
I"m not sure how I'll pick people, but I'd love to see a poker resume!
Mine:
Experience: 2 years of "serious" playing
Notable accomplishments
Winner - KPS Tournament of Champions
Winner - Westside Poker Club January 2007
Runner-up - KWGM I
Runner-up - KPS "Grudge Match Rip-off"
KPS TOC should be in BOLD due to its ridonkulous prestige. And it's Grudge Match WANNABE, rip-off makes it sound cheap
/g2
Andrew Salter
Education: Sklanky's Tournament for Advanced Players, Phil Gordon's Black Book, TJ Cloutier, Sklansky's Theory of Poker, Harrington on Hold'Em, Mark Beaton's Poker Articles!!!!, Devin Armstrong on the recently cancelled but still loved PNL
Experience: Learned poker as a child but started playing for real 3 years ago.
Accomplishments: Bristol Street Champion (XXIV??)
Bristol Street Runner Up (XXsomething)
Bristol Street 10 Ten Players of 2006
3rd Bristol Street Tournament of Champs 2006
3rd KPS event at some point
Eater of Babies
Winner of a Poker Stars Tournament for $430 or so
Made Mark Beaton Fold pocket 5s and he would have flopped quads
Member of HBK
Beat the Pants off my friends at home games (fits into pantless poker)
Hobbies: I Act as recently seen in "Moonchildren" playing TONIGHT, Tommorrow and Saturday in St. Jacobs. We were reviewed in the Record. I even sort of get mentioned! Well my character does. I have recently been addicted to World of Warcraft. I eat babies, but I mentioned that above.
Why I would be an asset: Someone needs to be first out at the first match. That'd be me. But I'll win the second one. I have a lovely singing voice that I have showcased at Cook Crew events. My rash has cleared up and the doctor says I am no longer contagious as long as I keep applying the cream. I know that 78 is a great hand.
/g2
Impressive resume, but I believe you may get points docked for calling me "Mark Beaton"... it's BREATON dammit.
P.S. I am also seen in "Moonchildren" see KWLT.org for more!!!
Will this post get deleted? We will see.
Persons already qualified for KWGM III
1. beanie42 (KWGM II Champ)
2. Haddon (KWGM II Money place)
3. Metro Tom (KWGM II Money place)
4. stpboy Shannon (KWGM II Prelim winner)
5. 8ball Tye (KWGM II prelim winner)
6. Waltsfriend Sandy (KWGM Wannabe winner)
Which means there are 4 spots left.... and two have already been selected.
1. Me - it's my damned tourney, and everyone says I should be in
2. Secret...
Mark
For example;
18 people start, each put in $20 to play three pre-lim matches on dates pre-determined.
Each night the group splits into 3 groups of 6 and points are awarded each game (10, 7, 5, 3, 1, 0). Each winner of each pre-lim gets $40. This leaves us break-even cashwise when we get to the finals.
The top ten point earners, move on, and KWGMIII starts in earnest. Pay your $120, play three matches to earn chips for the final game, etc.
To play devil's advocate, is this too much poker for the money invested? Should the pre-lims be a little more pricey? Why can't I leave a perfectly good tournament structure alone?
Anyway, regardless of how you choose to run, it, my recommendation is to pick dates before you accept "applications" and see who's really available to play.
I like that we play 4 consecutive games against a table of all the same players - I think that is what truley makes it a grudge match. By the Final Game nearly everyone has made at least one donkey call against someone else and sucked out huge - which adds to the flavour of the final game.
Can't wait for it to start - this will be my 3rd and it is a hell of a series!
Thanks for the input... I brainstormed a lot with you when first setting this up, and although I do like the idea of a bigger field, I have to admit that the SNG aspect of the game makes it unique...
This doesn't mean that someone (cough cough Bristol street cough cough) couldn't run something similar.... a friday night league perhaps?
Mark
P.S. BTW Zithal, if you want in KWGM 3 that bad, just put up a resume!