I've been catching up on some forum fighting and I have this to say...

ElElliott

Hork42 wrote I also believe that the members of the forum should say whatever they feel the need to say.Â Â They must keep in mind what the consequences of their actions are, just like in society.Â Â If a forum moderator decides what was said was out of line, then he should be able to decide the punishment without 40 forum members questioning the decision.

Word.

beanie42

Hork42 wrote I'm not sure I know what you're saying, Beanie.... You're going to hit BBC with a truck?Â Wha?

LOL - nice. First, I never mentioned anyone specifically, so why would you assume I meant BBC (or anyone else for that matter)? Second, this is an analogy, and Sloth (and friends) are the truckers (love them truckers ;) ). I don't know anyone I would actually wish harm upon.

pkrfce9

Why is this such a big deal?

You make some valid points, Chris. However, I see a big difference between constructive criticism or civil debate and what has gone on from time to time. One allows for collective growth and the other will end up driving people away.

ScoobyD

You make some valid points, Chris.

I think he makes a LOT of valid points.

Yorkpoker

This isn't a big deal. This has never been a big deal. Everyone is correct, and I am not being sarcastic.

Hork and Beanie, both wise words. Thanks for the perspective. I had typed a whole thing explaining the basis of my rant, but in the end, you are both right.

My neigbour did have little yappy dogs. That actually gave me a moment of zen.

As far as asking members of BBC's social circle to add comments, I was really only curious if he's the same in person. I would like to believe that although I don't like how he says things online that he and I could be social or at least civil in person. I do have to deal with all kinds of people all the time and this is specifically something I like to check about myself - can I still be myself with people who I am not naturally drawn to.

I got sidetracked from my OP, to which I should really add Hork's words,

Hork42 wrote I think as a group, we need to toughen up a bit. Take criticism as a building block... not everyone is going to sugarcoat it when you make a horrible play in your .5/1 NL hand, we're going to tell it how it is.

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My only intent was to draw attention to the way we seem to be telling one another how bad our plays have been. I can say that you 'erred in your decision making', or I can call you a moron who doesn't know how to play poker and can't type. Both have the same 'constructive' part, but they also have different effects on the conversation and the tone of the forum.

I can't believe you're telling me that as a voluntary member of the forum I (or anyone else) must tolerate abuse while waiting for constructive criticsm. That seems a little much for any of us to swallow. In this case, Scotty had his fill of the crap people were feeding him. That was my motivation and my concern. Please read BBC's comment and honestly let me know if I reacted inappropriately to the tone as well as the content.

In any case, I have said my piece and am off to the sunshine state for some sun and R+R. I may post a trip report, although I sense it will be mostly slurred typing.

Cheers all!

harthgosh

wow,Â

I certainly didn't want to hurt scottyz's feelings.Â So if i did at all im sorry.Â If i didnt nevermind.

Personally, I was glad scotty banned me, and think he has done an awesome job here.Â I said as much in an email to sloth after that all happened.Â And I summed it up in the 'my banning'Â thread.Â
Anything i said after was in jest, and not serious.Â I thought it was all too funny, and was trying to have some fun with the facts.Â The truth is I couldnt care less about being banned.Â
Â Â On some of the other forums i participate in bannings are almost comical in most cases (for real members), and I was just messing around.Â And about being harsh about some HH's and the whole flintbones nonsense, I was also just messing around.Â I had just spent a few weeks reading neverwins board (pure degeneration) and I was just being trying to inject some fire for a week around here.Â Well it didnt go to well did it?Â Â

moose

beanie42 wrote I had a neighbor who had an annoying dog.Â It didn't matter how nice or mean you were to it, it would always be yapping.Â After a while, you stop hearing it, and it becomes background noise.Â And then my neighbors dog got hit by a truck.Â

My neighbour's dog is an annoying barker too.Â Could I borrow your truck for a while? ;)

Big E

ScottyZ wrote
all_aces wrote Soooooooo... you're coming back?
Not as a moderator, and I never really left yet otherwise I guess. :)

ScottyZ

This is off topic...but you did a terrific job Scotty, I think one could easily get wrapped up in trying to figure out the 'tone' of many posts that may seem offensive or borderline to some but not others...I don't think that's a moderators job. I think he needs to be unbiased and simply treat everyone the same using the same set of rules. Regardless of the intended tone if something crosses the line it should be dealt with. I was banned for an inappropriate post, my intent was not to offend but to try and be funny however Scotty was 100% correct in his decision, regardless of what I intended or my perception of the post the content of my post was completely out of line (and may I add the post was not a reflection of how I personally feel or view the world, it was more a paraphrase of a rant I heard on the radio that I considered funny..and forget it you're not seeing the OP). Anyways I applaud Scotty for his decision and his hard work, it prompted me to step back and realize my mistake. I have not made that mistake again and is that not the ultimate goal to learn from your mistakes? I can be hot-headed and passionate about things and I believe that is within the boundries of this forum but I think as long as people don't make things personal, vulgar, or racial then some 'heated' debate is completely healthy.

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