World Cup of Cards - Aug 18 to Sept 14 - Playground Poker Club

mikelbyl

Today we're thrilled to announce the 2016 World Cup of Cards, an all-new multi-sponsor, multi-tour poker Festival being held at Playground Poker Club.

We'll post a full text schedule here in the next few days, but for the full schedule, event details, rules, and other information please visit: https://www.playgroundpoker.ca/worldcupofcards2016

Highlights:

Over $2,000,000 in Guaranteed Prize Pools
Quantum Tournament with $200,000 GTD
$500 + $65 WPT National Montreal ($400K GTD)
$100 + $9 Grand Prix Canada with 8 Live Day 1s and 20 online Day 1s on Partypoker.com ($500K GTD)
$1,500 + $150 NL Hold'em Card Player Poker Tour event ($400K GTD)
a $300 + $30 PPC Poker Tour event in which the prize pool will include PPC World Championship Aruba packages
Around 25% non-Hold'em tournaments among the side events, including PLO, PLO8, 5-Card PLO, Pineapple, Crazy Pineapple, etc.
And a huge $5,000 + $400 NL Hold'em Freeze...

We're also still preparing the downloadable PDF Structure sheets for each tournament among other information people appreciate having.

As usual we'll be more than happy to answer any questions you have here on Poker Forum Canada.

mikelbyl

Notice there's a Senior's side event with a buy-in slightly bumped from last time.

Also you should note that this does NOT replace the Main Tour WPT Montreal in November - that's still going to be a fully televised WPT Main Tour stop as it has been for the past few years.

This festival has the WPT National Montreal, but that's a whole different thing. You'll note that it's very similar to another WPT format, just with this unique name.

moose

@blondefish what is the best Quantum day 1 to enter, considering if you qualify for day 2, you also receive $400

BlondeFish

The Quantum unlimited re-entry gimmick has been criticized by Allen Kessler and other 2+2ers over the years, so now that this re-entry virus has spread to Canada, I'll have to look at the numbers after I return from Lost Wages. Intuitively, I would buy-in at the lowest amount and not re-enter at a higher buy-in, but poker can be very counter-intuitive.

moose;400892 wrote@blondefish what is the best Quantum day 1 to enter, considering if you qualify for day 2, you also receive $400

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BlondeFish

I always wanted to take my kid to La Ronde theme park, but it was always closed during WPT CSC and Montreal. Anybody else interested in going to La Ronde with the first virtual reality rollercoaster in Canada? I have rented a three-bedroom house for August 18-26. I have bought Gold Season Passes, which includes season parking and admission to all Six Flags theme parks.

With WCC possibly being the longest ever poker festival in Canada at 28 days, here is my master plan for Playground.

- August 17: $500 + $50 GBH Summer Classic with 15K starting chips.
- August 18, 7 pm: WCC Event #1, $145.50 + $24.50 Quantum Day 1a, $200K Gtd, 14.4% rake.
- August 19, 10 am: $523.80 + $76.20 WPT Re-entry Day 1a, $400K Gtd, 12.7% rake.
- August 20: $170 Quantum 1b (7 pm); $600 WPT 1b.
- August 21, 8 pm: $165 + $20 CPPT Satellite Re-entry, 2 Seats Gtd, 10.8% rake; Exporail attraction near Playground (10 am - 6 pm).

- La Ronde on Aug. 18-24 (11 am - 8/9 pm); closed on Aug. 25-26 & Aug. 29 - Sept. 2.
- August 22 & 23: Use Passeport MTL to see all the Montreal attractions with my kid.

- August 24, 7 pm: $170 Quantum 1c.
- August 25, 8 pm: $185 CPPT Satellite Re-entry (was 5 seats Gtd?).
- August 26: stop by any attractions on the drive back to Toronto.

- Carpool to Montreal Airbnb on September 1 by 4 pm to play the Turbo $100 + $9 GPPT, 8.3% rake.
- Sept. 4: $220 Seniors' Tournament ($20K gtd).
- Sept. 5: $170 Quantum ($200K gtd) &/or $330 PPC ($30K gtd).
- Sept. 6-8: Try to win satellites to $5,400 8-Max ($150K gtd) & CPPT.
- Sept. 10: $1,650 CPPT 1a, 11 am ($400K gtd).
- Sept 11: $220 + $25 Re-entry Quantum Mega Satellite, 8 pm, 5 Seats Gtd, 10.2% rake.
- Bring a friend for free to La Ronde between Sept. 3-11.
- Stay while I have Day 2+ to play, hopefully up to Sept. 13/14.

- Write an article about WCC for Casino World Magazine.
- Book Airbnb house to share for October 30 - November.
- Road trip to The Great Escape & Splashwater Kingdom in Lake George, NY by October 29. Try to stop by the best state parks in the US - Watkins Glen or Letchworth.
- October 29, Fallsview Casino: Le Grand Cirque – Adrenaline, 3 pm; arrange carpool.
- Carpool to Montreal by October 30: go to Fright Fest at La Ronde, 11 am - 9 pm.
- WPT Montreal: October 30 up to November 17; bring a friend for free to La Ronde on November 5 or 6.

mikelbyl;400891 wroteNotice there's a Senior's side event with a buy-in slightly bumped from last time.

UBetIFold

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BlondeFish

moose;400892 wrote@blondefish what is the best Quantum day 1 to enter, considering if you qualify for day 2, you also receive $400

I already PM-ed moose, but is any lurker or member willing to analyze together and swap for the Quantum, WPT 500, CPPT $1,650, PPC and GPPT events? I have seen these weird structures before at Dusk Till Dawn and the US, but the 28-day World Cup of Cards is the most complicated festival ever in Canada AFAIK. Who wants to "go into The Lab" and figure out the +$EV strategies for Quantum, Golden Chip, Day 2 re-entry, WPT500 format, etc?

A bunch of live casino players have already booked accommodations for WCC, starting with the WPT event as early as August 19. The low buy-ins of most of WCC will probably not attract many pros, which is good news for us.

UBetIFold

Don't know about the majority of the events being held, but I will be attempting to qualify for day 2 via party's online day 1's @ $85usd.

This is the Canadian grand prix event.

I had asked collette to verify but she never did, BF, is it true in fact, ANYONE who makes day 2 of this event is gtd $400 already? Whether qualified for day 2 by online or live.

Also, you can buy into day 2 directly for $1100?

Collete also said it is best stack forward. If I bag 20k and 200k on separate flights the 20k gets removed from play, but do I still get a cash for that stack as it sates on the website anyone who makes day 2 is ITM.

trigs

BlondeFish;401040 wroteI already PM-ed moose, but is any lurker or member willing to analyze together and swap for the Quantum, WPT 500, CPPT $1,650, PPC and GPPT events? I have seen these weird structures before at Dusk Till Dawn and the US, but the 28-day World Cup of Cards is the most complicated festival ever in Canada AFAIK. Who wants to "go into The Lab" and figure out the +$EV strategies for Quantum, Golden Chip, Day 2 re-entry, WPT500 format, etc?

A bunch of live casino players have already booked accommodations for WCC, starting with the WPT event as early as August 19. The low buy-ins of most of WCC will probably not attract many pros, which is good news for us.

i'm debating on going to montreal but i'd only be able to play the WPT and/or All-Stars as I have to be back for work on sep. 6th.

BlondeFish

Holy complexity, Batman! Let's chat on Facebook about the GPPT debut in Canada.

UBetIFold;401043 wroteDon't know about the majority of the events being held, but I will be attempting to qualify for day 2 via party's online day 1's @ $85usd.

This is the Canadian grand prix event.

I had asked collette to verify but she never did, BF, is it true in fact, ANYONE who makes day 2 of this event is gtd $400 already? Whether qualified for day 2 by online or live.

Also, you can buy into day 2 directly for $1100?

Collete also said it is best stack forward. If I bag 20k and 200k on separate flights the 20k gets removed from play, but do I still get a cash for that stack as it sates on the website anyone who makes day 2 is ITM.

BlondeFish

UBetIFold;401043 wroteI had asked collette to verify but she never did, BF, is it true in fact, ANYONE who makes day 2 of this event is gtd $400 already? Whether qualified for day 2 by online or live.

Where did you see this $400 amount? It has been my long-standing suggestion to Dusk Till Dawn UK that their online/live hybrid events such as GPPT have some money for the players if they make it to the end of Day 1, since these players had to spend money and time to go all the way to Nottingham or other UK venue for Day 2. Although they didn't do it for the GPPT Newcastle Day 2 today, :( it seems they will implement my suggestion for GPPT Canada, so that you will get some money to subsidize your expenses and inconvenience travelling to Kahnawake for Day 2. A portion of the prize for GPPT Europe events included a U$109 ticket for a future GPPT, which would not make sense here, since only "Crazy Canucks" would fly all the way to Europe for the next GPPT event and the Canadian buy-in is U$85 and not U$109.

I messaged you about your other questions so we can discuss/debate them point-by-point to make plans before the August deadline, as Colette, etc. may not know all the details of the first-ever GPPT Canada by then. I'm willing to swap a percentage for the first GPPT Day 1 we each play.

moose

Everyone who qualifies for Day 2 will cash out $400 at the end of your Day 1.

https://www.playgroundpoker.ca/worldcupofcards2016?utm_source=PG&utm_medium=events-badge&utm_content=en&utm_campaign=WCC16

The $400 was in the Quantum.

It says nothing about $400 for the Grand Prix, although it does say that everyone in the GP day 2 is ITM.

Rules & Procedures

Live Day 1 Flights: 10% of the field in each Day 1 qualifies for Day 2, and everyone who qualifies is in the money.

Online Day 1 Flights: Play continues for 16 levels, which will leave approximately 10% of the field still in that starting flight.

All payouts in this event to be made through partypoker. Each player must have a partypoker account.

Although that seems odd because you can apparently buy directly into day 2 for $1100

Buy Directly Into Day 2

Didn't manage to bag chips on day 1? No problem! Pending available seating, players will be allowed to buy-in on day 2 prior to the start of the tournament. Buying-into day 2 directly costs $1,100 and gets you a stack of 200,000 chips. Don't rely solely on a day 2 buy-in though, as seating is capped at 560 players!

Not sure how 10% of the field on a $109 day 1 makes it to day 2 but you can buyin directly to day 2 for $1100 yet also be ITM. Best value then would be to just buy into day 2 and receive a discount on your $1100 direct buyin for being ITM. It makes no sense.

UBetIFold

Thanks for clearing all that up moose.

So anyone who makes day 2 is ITM. We just don't know the exact amount.

My biggest concern, is, it being biggest stack forward, will I receive a min cash twice if I bag twice for day 2 while my smaller chip count gets removed from play.

PocketsTwos

Im looking to go to Montreal from September 2nd for about a week for the Grand Prix and some satellites

mikelbyl

Hey guys, I can answer your questions. Remember many of these events are "ours" but many run based on the formula of our participating tour - such is the case with the Canadian Grand Prix event (GPPT).

We're managing and TD-ing everything BTW, in case you were wondering who will be making rulings and dealing and managing the clock etc. Everything will follow 100% our top-quality standards, no exceptions.

In any case, for that particular event, the live flights play down to 10% of that day's starting field and indeed everyone who qualifies is in the money. However this is more of a traditional best-stack-forward event and there are no payments immediately upon qualifying nor payments for forfeited stacks as there are for other events. The impetus to play multiple Day 1s in this case is to give yourself the largest stack possible for Day 2 and the money.

That being said, because everyone is itm by Day 2, there's no bubble so action should be fast and there should be some great opportunities to ladder up the pay jumps.

In terms of simply buying directly into Day 2 - this should be possible but is not guaranteed - there is a hard cap of 560 players to start Day 2, and if that is reached via the 28 Day 1 starting flights (online and live) then no one will be allowed to buy in directly on Day 2.

lastly - note that ALL payouts for the GPPT will be made via Partypoker and you must have a partypoker account to play.

mikelbyl

Now in terms of grinder-friendly events, the Quantum is pretty special. In this case, during any Day 1 at any price point, right away when you bag your chips you'll get a payout coupon you can take to the cage/cashier for $400.

So let's say you play Day 1a ($170 b/i total) and make it to the end - $400.

So then you decide to play Day 1d ($250 b/i total) and make it to the end - $400, immediately. Then, within a few hours once we've verified that you qualified a 2nd time - we'll leave a coupon at the cage that you can pick up the next day for another $1500.

In this case you would start on Day 2 with only the single largest of your 2 qualifying stacks - but you will also have already been paid $2,300 - before you even show up for Day 2.

moose

Is it another $1500 for every day 2 after the first? ie 3rd, 4th times etc?

BlondeFish

mikelbyl;401120 wrotethere are no payments immediately upon qualifying nor payments for forfeited stacks as there are for other events.

Wow, GPPT Canada is even more strange than Quantum! WPT500 Las Vegas, WSOP Colossus, Quantum, and other re-entry events I know with a big guarantee pay you multiple times for all your stacks that make it to the end of Day 1 to encourage as many re-entries as possible. Has anybody ever seen any >= $500K Gtd event where as soon as you make it to the end of Day 1 and cash, there is not much point in playing another flight?

In terms of simply buying directly into Day 2 - this should be possible but is not guaranteed

Can you please post or link to the payout structure? Assuming there are 5,000 entries and 500 get paid, what will the min-cash be?

How much of the $1,100 buy-in goes to the prize pool, e.g., $970 (+ $30 for 3% staff gratuities + $100 fee) for 11.8% rake? partypoker's rake is 8.2% (U$78+U$7), and the rake for the live flights is 11.0% ($97+$3+$9).

Is Playground's tournament capacity 560 players, i.e., 56 tables?

mikelbyl;401122 wroteIn this case you would start on Day 2 with only the single largest of your 2 qualifying stacks - but you will also have already been paid $2,300 - before you even show up for Day 2.

I hated the "Quantum Reload" when I first read about it years ago, but this seems better than the GPPT restriction.

mikelbyl

First time you qualify: $400 flat.
Every additional time: $400 plus an additional $1500 for the forfeited stack.

Start day 2 only with your largest stack.

BTW I'm not 100% sure but I think a lot of the prominent critics of the OLD "Quantum reload" format - which is NOT this - turned around and support this format, or are at least neutral about it.

The other benefit is that you don't have to wait until Day 2 to get paid - payments will be made either immediately when you bag or the next day (once it's officially verified) in the case of the $1,500.

UBetIFold

Couple thoughts on the last couple posts.

-why is there a hard cap exactly? Wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest to have as many entries as possible? Unless as BF stated, the room itself cannot bare more then 560.

-I would have preferred to be ITM for every GPPT day 1 finish, taking only the largest stack and forfietting the rest.

-The GPPT day 2 buy in is $1,100, but in actuality it's less because we are already ITM correct?

-the quantum event. I haven't read it's rules intirely but as it progresses the buy in becomes bigger?

-Why exactly are the payouts so big if you qualify twice? ($1500) is it this way to encourage ppl to fire as many bullets into this event as possible?