Ferguson Missouri

Hobbes

How about teachers? ;)

wildbill7145

Hobbes;387019 wroteHow about teachers? ;)

Might keep them from slacking off and posting on internet forums tho.

The_Awesome

Both protected by unions... good luck.

Milo

Mark: Are rabble rousers like Sharpton part of your "privileged few"?

Awesome: Agree with the need to "fix" the colour issues that divide many areas of US life (hell, Canadian too, to a lesser extent). The problem starts when the black/white issues get used in a less than sympathetic instance. Trayvon Martin was a MUCH BETTER jumping off point for a race discussion than this one.

But, a bigger issue might be the whole BLUE / Non-blue colour issue, ESPECIALLY in the US. That is to say, Cops v. non cops.

And yes, body cams for all cops with direct feed to the web 24/7.

kwsteve

The Ferguson grand jury was never intended to bring an*indictment

Lining up witnesses who contradicted Wilson's testimony, only to discredit them, was clearly the prosecutors' modus operandi in this investigative grand jury. That's the kind of procedure that should have been reserved for a courtroom in a criminal trial.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/albertsamaha/ferguson-grand-jury-purpose-not-indictment

trigs

Hobbes;387019 wroteHow about teachers? ;)

i'm fine with that. one school i worked at in south korea had cameras in all the classrooms. they were shown on tvs in the front room so parents could sit and watch the classes.

kwsteve

St. Louis Prosecutor's Organization Raised Money For Darren Wilson | Crooks and Liars

In addition to his duties as the county prosecutor, Robert McCulloch is also the president of The Backstoppers, Inc., an organization used to fundraise for the men and women in uniform in both Missouri and Illinois. And, in August, his organization was affiliated with a t-shirt drive featuring a picture of Missouri and the statement “I SUPPORT OFFICER D. WILSON” which was set up to raise money for the Darren Wilson Defense Fund as well as The Backstoppers.

I'm sure 'Ol Bob was completely impartial tho.

The BackStoppers Inc.

SuperNed

Ted Nugent said it best.

DrTyore

Milo;387027 wroteMark: Are rabble rousers like Sharpton part of your "privileged few"?

Tell ya what, I'll let you figure out who's the privileged ones overall and who's not... but here's a hint....

Not: Trayvon Martin, Sammy Yatin, and Tamir Rice

Mark

The_Awesome

Any group with power that no longer feels associated with those they have power over will abuse that power. Be it a white police force and minorities who live in thier town or politicians and the general public.

trigs

trigs;387018 wroteall police officers must have an active camera and microphone attached to them at all times while on duty. problem solved.

NYPD's New Body Cameras May Help Catch Crooked Cops in the Act

Monoxide

trigs;387018 wroteall police officers must have an active camera and microphone attached to them at all times while on duty. problem solved.

I dont understand how its 2014 and all officers dont have some form of micro go-pro camera with the *literal* billions of dollars they are funded by in Canada and the US. It should be instated in ALL 1st world countries police forces uniforms, like built in.

People who can murder and get away scott free should never have unmonitored freedom while ON the job. This is why people hate and fear the police forces. Is it some huge scheme so they can do corrupt things and basically run themselves with zero reprocussion? who knows, but its soooo shady.

DrTyore

Looks like video evidence won't make a big difference in regards to charges...

Cop cleared in chokehold death of Eric Garner | New York Post

Mark

Milo

Not commenting on the specifics, because I have not read the deets on this one, but one thing struck me in the linked article . . . it mentions that the victim was screaming, "I can't breathe, I can't breathe". Sorry, but if you can talk, you ARE breathing.

That is all.

The_Awesome

Obviously you must be right. Total coincidence that he died right there and then. It was probably just to spite the officers for not beleiving his distress. Please ignore the banned choke hold and the coroner's report of homicide.

Well at least one supremely dangerous illegal cigarette pusher is off the streets.

Milo

Not the point I was making at all . . . but thanks for caring.

Primary cause of death for Garner was a heart attack. ME said it was likely brought on by his obesity, asthma, and the incident with the Officer involved.

For the record, the "if you can talk, you're breathing" is something known as a "fact". As someone who has actually suffered the effects of "choking" (ie the inability to take in air to your lungs), talking/screaming is the LAST thing on your mind.

DrTyore

Milo;387312 wroteNot the point I was making at all . . . but thanks for caring.

Primary cause of death for Garner was a heart attack. ME said it was likely brought on by his obesity, asthma, and the incident with the Officer involved.

For the record, the "if you can talk, you're breathing" is something known as a "fact". As someone who has actually suffered the effects of "choking" (ie the inability to take in air to your lungs), talking/screaming is the LAST thing on your mind.

You realize this is yet another instance of trying to distance / excuse / blame the victim right? And yes, I do know the whole "if you can make noise, there is air passage" thing, but the group of men dog piling and choking the guy over some fucking Marlboro's does seem a little more ridiculous than "but he was able to make noise so.."

Mark

pkrfce9

Hypocrite tho

Milo

DrTyore;387321 wroteYou realize this is yet another instance of trying to distance / excuse / blame the victim right? And yes, I do know the whole "if you can make noise, there is air passage" thing, but the group of men dog piling and choking the guy over some fucking Marlboro's does seem a little more ridiculous than "but he was able to make noise so.."

Mark

The only point I was trying to make is about the laziness of the writer in using the passage they did. The notion of someone crying out, "I can't breathe" because they are being choked is nonsense.

I SPECIFICALLY stated that I was not commenting on the details, and even went so far as to say WHY. So go fuck yourself with your "blaming the victim" bullshit, because the ONLY person I am blaming is the WRITER, and the ONLY thing I am blaming them for is laziness.

DrTyore

Milo;387328 wroteThe only point I was trying to make is about the laziness of the writer in using the passage they did. The notion of someone crying out, "I can't breathe" because they are being choked is nonsense.

I SPECIFICALLY stated that I was not commenting on the details, and even went so far as to say WHY. So go fuck yourself with your "blaming the victim" bullshit, because the ONLY person I am blaming is the WRITER, and the ONLY thing I am blaming them for is laziness.

You may want to be more clear about that, because I'd bet the vast majority of people that don't have you on ignore wouldn't have read it that way.

Mark

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