Anyone watch Phil Ivey 60 minutes

getem76

I have not, post a link that would be great.

From what I know of the facts, yes its a casino not a home game and I would leave this as to be true...

If I can see marks on the cards in a casino, I would play knowing the cards period, IMO its the houses fault for using a marked deck, IE upper management, have a look at the deck stupid! In a home game truth be told I would mention something is marked and in the past I have done this, a casino is not a home, its not people you assoicate with, they have money, your winning money.....If they knew the deck was marked and could control how you bet, for a second do you think they would stop the game!?

Your all welcome to flame me for my opinions. Lookin forward to it.:p

wildbill7145

60 Minutes Video - Arguably the world

Not sure if this is the full interview as it's only 2:54 minutes long.

This must just be the teaser preview of the interview as according to this:

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2014/10/phil-ivey-to-discuss-edge-sorting-lawsuits-on-60-minutes-19407.htm

the full interview doesn't air until Oct 7.

Milo

Thing is, my understanding is that the cards were not "marked" per se. They were simply not "cut" properly at the manufacturer. Nor were they examined closely enough by the casino as part of their quality control process. This allowed cards with a non-uniform "back" to be put into play. Over time, ANY closely observant player would have noticed something different about them, so it does not surprise me that Ivey (or his associate) did so themselves. To me, the onus is on the casino to catch the flaw and prevent it being exploited.

As Teddy KGB said, "pay him . . . pay that man his money."

Milo

As an aside, I went through some of the multiple decks of cards that I own, including some WSOP decks. NONE of those decks showed ANY kind of "tell" with respect to a lack of uniformity. Either they were manufactured properly, or I was just not looking hard enough.

BlondeFish

Finding a Video Poker Bug Made These Guys Rich—Then Vegas Made Them Pay

As a December 3, 2013, trial date approached, the Feds made Kane and Nestor separate but identical offers: The first one to agree to testify against the other would walk away with five years of probation and no jail time.

The old gambling buddies had one more game to play together. It was the Prisoner's Dilemma. Without speaking, they both arrived at the optimal strategy: ...

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BlondeFish;383291 wroteFinding a Video Poker Bug Made These Guys Rich—Then Vegas Made Them Pay

Interesting read

trigs

BlondeFish;383291 wroteFinding a Video Poker Bug Made These Guys Rich—Then Vegas Made Them Pay

okay, guy was obviously addicted, but man what an idiot. you figure out how to beat a specific machine in which there are at least a hundred out there in different casinos. however, you decide to sit at one only and hit jackpot after jackpot in about an hour until the casino is certain that you're fucking with it somehow. seriously guy - how about like four or five jackpots a week between various casinos? no one suspects a thing and you're making like $10,000 a week.

wildbill7145

Once again, Candy Crush finds another victim. I know some on here play, I couldn't bring myself to try any game on FB. Anyone tried the hack Nestor appears to have found?

Anyone watch the full interview with Ivey that was aired last night?

trigs

Phil Ivey Loses £7.7 Million "Edge Sorting" Court Battle Against Crockfords Casino | PokerNews

Startles

The old gambling buddies had one more game to play together. It was the Prisoner's Dilemma. Without speaking, they both arrived at the optimal strategy: ...

in terms of the Prisoner's Dilemma, this statement is explosive on an unfathomable magnitude.

pkrfce9

No it is not

getem76

im trying to track it down, seems based on judgement i think cheating is ok....messed up

Milo

trigs;383299 wroteokay, guy was obviously addicted, but man what an idiot. you figure out how to beat a specific machine in which there are at least a hundred out there in different casinos. however, you decide to sit at one only and hit jackpot after jackpot in about an hour until the casino is certain that you're fucking with it somehow. seriously guy - how about like four or five jackpots a week between various casinos? no one suspects a thing and you're making like $10,000 a week.

Except that even 4 or 5 jackpots a week by the same player would tip them that something was up.

trigs

Milo;383340 wroteExcept that even 4 or 5 jackpots a week by the same player would tip them that something was up.

maybe at the same casino, but he could have traveled to others and split it up. the article stated that there were around 100 of the exact same video poker machines in various casinos. i guess i'm assuming there were some others in his area at different casinos.

Milo

Yes, but that would simply delay the inevitable . . . didn't you watch Casino? Those machines are not supposed to pay out like that.

He's incompetent, he jeopardizes the whole operation.

Bfillmaff

edit - link added below!

Bfillmaff

had a chance to watch it tonight. the ivey portion is only 20 minutes and isn't anything you haven't already read. enjoyed it but nothing special.

Bfillmaff

bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khCM9WmI0uQ

getem76

I just watched it for the first time, yes hes lost in court but really if your dumb enough to do all these things FOR him then claim, he had an advantage over us then why give it to him!!!

Too bad sucker pay him and lock the doors with him outside!