Doomsday Preppers

Kristy

Yes, very much so. GW has hunting ammo to doomsday, but the 2 22s are rarely used. We're 0/10 now.

Kristy

We found one place charging double the price and limiting customers to 4 boxes so there is a chance they may still have some tomorrow morning when we can get over there.

ReefAquarium

Kristy;381790 wroteThe real question is "Will we be able to find bullets?" We're seriously 0/5 today.

MOAR tips Reef!

When we were kids we used to go around to empty parking lots. Find old lead wheel weights that fell off cars and melt them down to cast our own Bullets and pellets and lead soldiers.

It probably caused brain damage. Don't do that!

Cheapest Center fire ammo.

Right now the best deal in centre fire ammo is the good old Russian 7.62x39.

Yep

SKS and AK 47 ammo.

Soviets are switching to the new AK-74 style 5.45x39 and later, so the old 7.62x39 ammo. is turning up in surplus.

Handloading (reloading old cartridges) might be more expensive than buying cheap russian surplus ammo.

To get good at shooting you need to shoot a lot!

We used to shoot a lot of BB's and pellets. Air guns are even cheaper than 22's to shoot. Modern air guns shoot at 1200+ fps.

The skills learned shooting pellets translate to bigger guns well.

Summary:

Learn to shoot with cheap ammo.
Consider getting a pellet gun. Seriously!

JimmyHo

How do I upload pkrfce9 gun range video?

Kristy

YouTube..IMMEDIATELY!

Bfillmaff

Kristy;382773 wrote You can answer in the Prepper thread if you want, but do you really think that the West coast slipping into the Pacific is a realistic possibility? (Per GTA's thread)
I've wondered a few times if buying a huge chunk of land on the east of the fault would be a great investment in my children's/grandchildren's future. ;)

I certainly can't claim to know one way or another, but I watched a documentary on earthquakes that I am sure would at least scare the fuck out of anyone living on the west coast. Scared me and I'm way over here!

Not "slipping into the pacific" mind you, but I believe scientists are in relative agreement that they are overdue for a "high magnitude earthquake of epic proportions." The jist of it is that every few hundred years that area gets butt raped, and it hasn't happened in a few hundred years.

The Cascadia fault—also known in more paranoid circles as the Cascadia Subduction Zone—runs offshore from somewhere near the top of Vancouver Island to northern California. Over the past five millennia it has ruptured with terrifying frequency. It will certainly rupture again, but this time with a string of 21st-century cities—high-rising, dense-with-people, globally interdependent regional capitals—stacked squarely in its impact zone.

Based on historical averages, the southern end of the fault—from Cape Mendocino, California, to Newport, Oregon—has a large earthquake every 240 years. For the northern end—from mid-Oregon to mid- Vancouver Island—the average “recurrence interval” is 480 years, according to a recent Canadian study. And while the north may have only half as many jolts, they tend to be full-size disasters in which the entire fault breaks from end to end.

(source)

Every few hundred years, British Columbia is rumbled by a subduction earthquake—an event that can measure up to a magnitude of 9. The west coast has already seen 13 of them over the past 6,500 years.

“In the next 50 years, the estimates that have been calculated are between 10 and 15 per cent,” he says. “We’ve seen many, many of these over the past centuries.
(source)

With a time line of 41 events the science team at OSU has now calculated that the California–Oregon end of Cascadia’s fault has a 37 percent chance of producing a major earthquake in the next 50 years. The odds are 10 percent that an even larger quake will strike the upper end, in a full-margin rupture, within 50 years. Given that the last big quake was 312 years ago, one might argue that a very bad day on the Cascadia Subduction Zone is ominously overdue. It appears that three centuries of silence along the fault has been entirely misleading. The monster is only sleeping.
(source)

ReefAquarium

wildbill7145;381712 wrote Town was going crazy though in a "WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!"

Aim lower?

ReefAquarium

wildbill7145;381751 wrote Good thinking. Reef for PFC apocalypse team captain.

Okay here is the plan:

Zombie attack:

Battle Rifle:

Everyone gets an SKS battle rifle! They can also be used to take down deer with the 7.62x39.

The SKS is Semi-auto fire, 20" barrel and a bayonet

The SKS is a semi-auto that has been obsolete since 1947 when the AK-47 was introduced.

The AK-47 uses the same round and is full auto with an 18" barrel.

Why the obsolete SKS?

It's the cheapest anti-zombie firepower with range.

We can get 15 SKS's for $1799. You get get a good one for $200 easy.

Cases of 7.62x39 Russian are cheap, at 20 cents a round. They fit into 10 (or 5) round stripper clips. It's easy to carry 30 or more stripper clips in bandoleers.

Everyone will need about 3 cases of 7.62x39.

Handguns:

Hand guns are a personal thing.

In WW I and WW II the Canadians didn't have an official hand gun. You can use whatever you want to buy and bring. Personally I'd rather have a bunch more clips of ammo for my battle rifle than a hand gun.

Feedback?

Edit - Obviously a .223/5.56mm C7 is much better. But everyone can afford an SKS.

Bfillmaff

ReefAquarium;393875 wrote Feedback?

In.

Milo

SKS is more "robust than the C-7, and likely to be far more durable. The fact that it's rounds match the AK-47 is a bonus in that those babies will be everywhere for the taking when the shit hits the fan, either in stores to be looted or bodies to be taken from.

Handguns are for folks too queasy to get up close and personal. All you really need is a BAT with a knife blade embedded into the end of it.

All this being said, if I am coming along, Bfillmaff better be doling out rifle training because I definitely need the practice.

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