Been Out Of The Game For A While...

Cerberus

But I'm pretty sure I played this one alright...

PokerStars Hand #108091776720: Tournament #826256380, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (150/300) - 2013/12/05 21:09:29 ET
Table '826256380 40' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: gunmart (8192 in chips)
Seat 2: McAusland (16580 in chips)
Seat 3: andrei198438 (11031 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Petrov555 (22093 in chips)
Seat 5: sakismyra (15070 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: magalhaes08 (14500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: Top_toc (15045 in chips)
Seat 8: SPLISH16 (14279 in chips)
Seat 9: nowayray115 (9820 in chips)
gunmart: posts the ante 40
McAusland: posts the ante 40
andrei198438: posts the ante 40
Petrov555: posts the ante 40
sakismyra: posts the ante 40
magalhaes08: posts the ante 40
Top_toc: posts the ante 40
SPLISH16: posts the ante 40
nowayray115: posts the ante 40
magalhaes08: posts small blind 150
Top_toc: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to McAusland [Kd Ks]
magalhaes08 has returned
SPLISH16: folds
andrei198438 has returned
nowayray115: calls 300
gunmart: folds
McAusland: raises 550 to 850
andrei198438: folds
Petrov555: folds
sakismyra: folds
magalhaes08: calls 700
Top_toc: folds
nowayray115: folds
*** FLOP *** [4h Js Kc]
magalhaes08: checks
McAusland: bets 1100
magalhaes08: calls 1100
*** TURN *** [4h Js Kc] [Qh]
magalhaes08: checks
McAusland: bets 2300
magalhaes08: calls 2300
*** RIVER *** [4h Js Kc Qh] [As]
magalhaes08: bets 10210 and is all-in
McAusland: calls 10210
*** SHOW DOWN ***
magalhaes08: shows [Ts Tc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
McAusland: shows [Kd Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
magalhaes08 collected 29880 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 29880 | Rake 0
Board [4h Js Kc Qh As]
Seat 1: gunmart folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: McAusland showed [Kd Ks] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 3: andrei198438 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Petrov555 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: sakismyra (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: magalhaes08 (small blind) showed [Ts Tc] and won (29880) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 7: Top_toc (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: SPLISH16 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: nowayray115 folded before Flop

Best part was the post hand chat...

McAusland: Wow. Very well played.
magalhaes08: i put you in AA
McAusland: Well that makes sense then

Bfillmaff

I suppose him calling the flop with that board may have been a mistake - but what about the rest of the hand?

That call brings the pot to $4560. Your bet of 2300 lays 2 to 1. Not odds to call, but what about the implied odds?

So it becomes (4560 + (10210 * X )) / 2300 , where X is the likelihood of you calling off the rest of your stack.

Lets say he figures you will stack off 75% of the time when he makes his hand.

He has 8 outs to a straight, and would likely figure (incorrectly) to have the two 10's as well, so lets say he has 8 outs, for a 16% chance of making his straight.

so 16% of the time he wins $12217 = 1954.8

and 84% of the time he loses $2300 = -1932

For a net EV of +22 !

So I wouldn't recommend it, but its not the worst play an online player ever made.... and if he figures you to pay him off at least 75% of the time its profitable. If he has any fold equity (he has to figure your range was a bit wider then just KK there) I think he can go down to as low as a 50% payoff rate.

Personally I might dick around with an open ender in that spot if your stack was maybe 4-5K deeper... but in a $1 SNG, this isn't as bad as it looks!

Hobbes

check/call + check/call + bet = I got there. ;)

JimmyHo

With that call on the river, you should likely stay out of the game lol.

DrTyore

pokerJAH;364743 wroteWith that call on the river, you should likely stay out of the game lol.

Really? You read him for runner runner underpair gutshot straight call down? With the cold call preflop? I see AQ in his range a lot more than TT...

If you're not calling this more often than not (read dependant blah blah), you're leaving money out there to be taken

lol

(See, I'm not a dick because I lol'd)

Mark

Bfillmaff

Hey when you worry about sounding like a dick that just means the discussion is flowing well! :)

For said discussion's sake: what is this players range given the information provided up to the all-in?

Bfillmaff

Ps - not a gut shot!

Bfillmaff

IMO you can make a case for the call or the fold there - its a $1 game anything is possible.

Cerberus

I agree that for a $1 game, anything is possible, same with the river bet = I got there.

To me, I was figuring AJ+, which is why I called the river.

Still find it hilarious what he said he put me on (AA) and yet he called the flop and turn. Noted for next time :)

And damned right DrTyore stuck up for my play (or lack there of)!!!

Bfillmaff

Cerberus;364774 wrote
Still find it hilarious what he said he put me on (AA) and yet he called the flop and turn. Noted for next time :)

again though, you are right on the flop, but if he thinks you have AA on the turn he HAS to call you or he's losing value.