Abortion ... the next step.

GTA Poker

The Prophet 22;357705 wroteYou know the answer to the question already. so why ask it?

I do not know your stance on the morning after pill. Is there a reason you will not state it?

DrTyore

Oh man....

Imma gonna read that article through, but I get this sneaking suspicion that this is a "thought experiment" vs, you know, science.

Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say - Telegraph

I argued earlier that this would be the next step in the abortion fight. How long before is becomes law? I thought I read it was on dockets to become law, but time doesn't allow me to search. But it is coming.

So we have an article in the Telegraph. This just in, Fox news correspondents found to highly agree.

And for the record, when do you ever have an original thought?

Isn't that just the pope calling the grand mufti a sham!

How far back do you have to go in history where abortion was the unthinkable?

Was practiced in Hamlet by Ophelia, some 400+ years ago... sure that's a work of fiction, but we've been accepting those so far in these conversations. Gonna throw a quote in from a great man who for real real exists;

Ophelia, she's 'neath the window,
for her I feel so afraid.
On her 22nd birthday,
she already is an old maid.

To her death is quite romantic,
she wears an iron vest.
Her profession is her religion,
her sin is her lifelessness

when do you ever have an original thought

He can pull the god card giving us our free will, or he can pull the philosophy card of no original thoughts!

Hey! A referenced article again! Twice in one thread?!?! :O Let's do some readin!!

Oh.. Huh... Marc Thiessen?

A few of the choicer blurbs...

"served as a speechwriter for United States President George W. Bush (2004–2009)"

Hmm, well... people gotta put food on the table ya know?

"he argued that the enhanced interrogation techniques used by the CIA, which the Obama administration has characterized as torture,[2] are not torture by any reasonable legal or moral standard[3] and "were not only effective, but lawful and morally just:

Well, I wonder what the new testament says about waterboarding....

"six years (1995–2001) on Capitol Hill as spokesman and senior policy advisor to Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms"

Oh! Wonder what Jesse Helms was like?

"nickname, "Senator No".[7] He opposed, at various times, civil rights, disability rights, feminism, gay rights, affirmative action, abortion, and government support for contemporary art with graphic sexuality.[8] Helms brought an "aggressiveness"[9] to his conservatism, as in his rhetoric against homosexuality, and employed racially charged language in his campaigns and editorials"

Well, that seems, completely horrible actually. At least he was consistent? I mean, blacks, women, gays, minorities, women (again), art with sexuality (trifecta against women! History has shown that male sexuality is okay, but women's is instantly super censored). And he showcased all of this with good old racist and homophobic words? Nice. Wait, 25 years in senate?

Anyways, back to our buddy Marc.... Hey! He wrote a whole book!!

"based on a series of slipshod premises."
"head of Scotland Yard's anti-terrorism branch in 2006 as saying that Thiessen's account of the Heathrow plot is "completely and utterly wrong" "
"Matthew Alexander, a former military interrogator and author of How to Break a Terrorist, characterises Thiessen's book as 'a literary defense of war criminals"

Well that all seems kinda like... crazy talk stuff doesn't it? Maybe this particular fella isn't someone to use to back your argument!

I bet WBC backs him up though...

#disguisethehate #godonourside #dylanstillhaditright #superioritythroughfairytales

Mark

800OVER

The Prophet 22;357705 wroteYou know the answer to the question already. so why ask it?

I ask this with all sincerity (and will enjoy the people who believe it's sarcasm) do you even know what the morning after pill does? Cause it sounds like you think it causes an abortion.

Wetts1012

The Prophet 22;357692 wrote
Comp, not trying to stir things up

I call bullshit.

You dont make threads like this without the intention of "stirring things up"

JimmyHo

Maybe he is in North Korea, might explain some of these posts.

RAM_Eh

Wetts1012;357715 wroteI call bullshit.

You dont make threads like this without the intention of "stirring things up"

#brainhacked

GTA Poker

Looks like he went back into his hole.

Please note the typical response of zealots when they are asked to comment on issues not on their direct agenda.

Still awaiting OP's stance on the morning after pill.

Milo

The Prophet 22;357703 wrote

Maybe not my life time but maybe your daughters lifetime.

Nope . . . not even in her child's lifetime.

The Prophet 22

Wetts1012;357715 wroteI call bullshit.

You dont make threads like this without the intention of "stirring things up"

Really. Somehow many of these discussions abortion finds its way into them. People are so nonchalant about this issue I wondered if people were even aware that this was the next step in the conversation. Did you read the Washington Post article? Were you aware that Canada had these kind of statistic? The bottom line is Canadians should be outraged that this is going on in our country. My guess is if you read this post, it is the first time you even heard the term “After Birth Abortion” and had no idea this discussion is going on around the world.

pokerJAH;357722 wroteMaybe he is in North Korea, might explain some of these posts.

Maybe at Christmas time, there is a chance to go and speak in an underground church. And yes, I will post a picture of my stamped passort.

GTA Poker;357790 wroteLooks like he went back into his hole.

Please note the typical response of zealots when they are asked to comment on issues not on their direct agenda.

Still awaiting OP's stance on the morning after pill.

What hole? If you are talking about the little village I live in, it is fine. Some days I have running water and some days I don't and only have internet service while I am at school.

Morning after pill. Without googling it, my understanding is it a pill that prevents life after intercourse, just like other pills that prevent life before intercourse. The morning after pill is suppose to be even stronger and designed to fight a potential pregnancy. Why would I be in favour of it?

Milo;357794 wroteNope . . . not even in her child's lifetime.

Do you think your grandparents or greatparents thought the day would come for abortion on demand?

actyper

Off topic read the latest Dan Brown book Inferno. Sick theory, makes some sense, but still disturbing

Reminds me of this a little

GTA Poker

The Prophet 22;357805 wrote Morning after pill. Without googling it, my understanding is it a pill that prevents life after intercourse, just like other pills that prevent life before intercourse. The morning after pill is suppose to be even stronger and designed to fight a potential pregnancy. Why would I be in favour of it?

Just what I thought, you don't know what you are talking about.

So, you want to prevent unwanted "murders"/abortions, but you are against birth control???

Face it, you just want to tell people what to do just like all the other of your clan. You could care less about life or death.

There is a pill that prevents life before intercourse? I thought it was just called not having game?

What's your solution? Sex is only allowed in marriage or when raping young boys?

Just because you don't understand basic biology or reproduction doesn't mean you shouldn't have a strong opinion on abortion. Afterall, you just wish it was 1820 anyhow.

How old do you believe the earth to be?

#themoreyouknow

DrTyore

There's one good argument being made...

Should extend the option of abortion until the age of 4-5.....decades old

Mark

The Prophet 22

GTA Poker;357808 wroteJust what I thought, you don't know what you are talking about.

So, you want to prevent unwanted "murders"/abortions, but you are against birth control???

Face it, you just want to tell people what to do just like all the other of your clan. You could care less about life or death.

What's your solution? Sex is only allowed in marriage or when raping young boys?

#getlaid

Solution to what? I don't have a problem. I didn't say you can't be involved in using the morning after pill. Did I? You asked me for its use and I gave it. You can and will do want you want. As for me, I would never choose to do so.

Milo

The Prophet 22;357805 wrote Do you think your grandparents or greatparents thought the day would come for abortion on demand?

Nope. But then, in their day there was a certain stigma attached to getting pregnant without first being married. Times change . . .

As for the morning after pill I believe that it induces a woman to start her menstrual cycle upon it's use, thus eliminating the possibility of a pregnancy occurring after having unprotected sex which may have led to conception. I also seem to recall a discussion wherein it is not exactly like popping some Tylenol, either. Also done without the aid of google, so feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.

Brent, just because abortion on demand was not thought of as a possibility a few generations ago, does not mean that what you are bringing forth will find it's way to legislatures around the globe any time soon. Hell, abortion as a procedure did not really become all that safe for the woman until the 1930's anyway, so it is not surprising that it was not exactly commonplace, regardless of social mores at the time.

Milo

GTA, you really need to get off the whole "raping boys" meme. It has been conclusively shown that the rate of offending amongst Catholic priests (and other denominations, as well) was/is no higher than other occupations that work in close proximity with youth (teachers, coaches, etc.). It is nothing more than a cheap shot that has no basis in reality.

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The Prophet 22;357805 wrote Morning after pill. Without googling it, my understanding is it a pill that prevents life after intercourse, just like other pills that prevent life before intercourse. The morning after pill is suppose to be even stronger and designed to fight a potential pregnancy. Why would I be in favour of it?

I'm sorry, I thought "why would I be in favour of it?" meant you were against it?

Milo

And? Ever hear of Graham James? What about David Frost? Your link does not address my point.

DrTyore

Brent

I am entirely saddened that this thread lost steam so quickly. I was very excited by the avenues this could have explored.

Mark

Milo

Mark, why is it "hatespeak" to posit a religious point of view, yet you give GTA a pass when he posts about child molesting clergy?

What's your solution? Sex is only allowed in marriage or when raping young boys?

Given the data available, is this not also hatespeak?

Just curious, but also helping to kick start this muthah . . .

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