Straddle

Jacen299

What's the point? How do you adjust to it?

Hobbes

Straddle drives action.

Open up your ranges.

Shifty

Personally I like this play, even though its technically -ev. It can however create +ev on certain tables like loosening up nits. And as mentioned above, great for creating actions. You must be comfortable playing a wider range pre and understand your hand value post flop.

Jacen299

I ended up stacking off against a guy who straddled. Took his $300 buy in. First experiences with straddle were good. :)

Richard~

Jacen299;346112 wroteI ended up stacking off against a guy who straddled. Took his $300 buy in. First experiences with straddle were good. :)

It's just a blind bet, there's not much to adjust to imo

JimmyHo

Mississippi straddle seems to be catching on here as well.

DennisG

Ran into a button straddle for the first time in Calgary a few months back...I got looked at like I was an idiot when I didn't know what the hell was going on..got the "everywhere does it"..Umm...no, no they don't. Vancouver and Edmonton don't..that's everywhere to me...

So now..in the BB I am already having to put money in blind..but now I have to make a decision to put in further money without the benefit of any table info... Good thing I am low limits I guess..

Jacen299

At aria room they allow utg or button straddles

Milo

Am Iunderstanding this correctly? with a Button straddle, action immediately reverts to the Blinds before progressing as normal? In other words, action proceeds with SB, BB, Button straddle, followed by SB, BB, UTG, UTG+1, etc.

Do I have that right?

westside8

Milo;346143 wroteAm Iunderstanding this correctly? with a Button straddle, action immediately reverts to the Blinds before progressing as normal? In other words, action proceeds with SB, BB, Button straddle, followed by SB, BB, UTG, UTG+1, etc.

Do I have that right?

Yes

moose

westside8;346146 wroteYes

No. sb goes first and action proceeds around table to button.

DennisG

Milo;346143 wroteAm Iunderstanding this correctly? with a Button straddle, action immediately reverts to the Blinds before progressing as normal? In other words, action proceeds with SB, BB, Button straddle, followed by SB, BB, UTG, UTG+1, etc.

Do I have that right?

moose;346148 wroteNo. sb goes first and action proceeds around table to button.

Yep, Moose has it....possibly because I am not used to it..but it seems the most ridiculous thing.. At least normally (utg straddle) the BB has some table info before having to act..

DennisG

double post.

Richard~

but then again the button straddle isn't live if someone raises before the button right? so it's basically just a blind button raise that gets a chance to act after the bb?

westside8

moose;346148 wroteNo. sb goes first and action proceeds around table to button.

Didn't he say SB, BB, button straddle, SB, BB, UTG? So SB does go first...my assumption was that SB, BB, Button straddle was just the posting of blinds and straddle.

moose

IDK, it was written wierd but Milo said action and in that case the action starts with sb and goes around to button.

The button straddle is always live, if someone raises in front of button, he still has the option to reraise, how could it be dead?

It is such a huge advantage to the button, I really can't think of why you wouldn't make use of it. However, it doesn't widely happen in Vegas and I usually forget myself when I'm down there.

GTA Poker

All straddles in deep NL games are +EV if you are comfortable squeezing the right players in the right spots with ATC...button straddle is more +EV given that you get to squeeze and then act last on every street.

Jacen299

last week playing 1/3 at Aria. A guy UTG straddles to $6. I'm in the cutoff with Ah 10h, and I raise to 20, I fully expected BB to call cuz he plays almost every hand and protects his BB everytime. Everyone folds except Straddle. Pot is $44
Flop Kh. 7h. 2s. He checks I bet 25. He calls.
Turn Ad. He Checks. I bet 40. Call.
River 3h. He checks. I act like hate the heart. But reluctantly bet 100. He goes all in. I beat him into the pot which was $600. As he mucked and left he said had a small flush.
Pretty sure this guy isn't in the hand if doesn't straddle, not likely playing small suited cards from UTG.

GTA Poker

You realize that acting like you hate a card and then betting the river is a huge tell?

He was a bad player, it doesn't have much to to with the straddle.

If you think he is stacking with a small flush in that spot and not normally playing small suited cards in EP then you are likely sorely mistaken.

Jacen299

you realize it was 1/3 right?