Fuck it! I'm mad as hell.

Milo

We are a media-obsessed society. 20-30 years ago these people would have simply jumped in front of a subway train, or killed themselves in some other fashion, maybe taking a person along with them, but that would be about it. Along comes our media obsession and the "fame" game, and people like this decide that if they are going to do this, they may as well get some notoriety. Killing yourself is no longer good enough, and so it becomes killing your family and THEN killing yourself. Eventually, even THAT is no longer newsworthy on a National level, so it becomes kill your family, kill a bunch of randoms, and go out in a hail of bullets or kill yourself with the last one.

As for Neverlookback's foil hat wing-nuttery, the Doctor thing was kind of funny, the foil-hat nonsense less so. There are many ways to end this tragic BS without resorting to confiscation of firearms or repealing the Second Amendment.

Your comments about the President demand a response: The man is a Father, as am I. I may (or may not) have a tenuous association with someone who lost a child in this tragedy, but simply as a Father I was close to tearing up yesterday. I doubt very much the President was "acting" during his press comments. If he was, he is in the wrong line of work, as he could make more $$$ in Hollywood.

neverlookback

thats what the media is looking for and the powers that be are looking for.. a HUGE emotional response from this just like 9/11. sept 11th was soooooo heinous and over the top in visuals (planes striking buildings with large explosions), that people will gladly hand over all or most rights for 'security'.

the more the emotional response they can get out this event, the better for them. The Batman shooting wasnt enough to get it done but this 'event' may tip the scales.

Seacrest out

Milo

I can pretty much guarantee that there will be a great hue and cry about this tragedy but, as always, nothing of substance will be done. doubt they even introduce a new assault weapons ban. They love their guns more than they love their kids, it seems.

compuease

I am opening up the CT tragedy thread for discussion of news updates and stuff to do with that event. Please do not use it to argue about gun or lathe control, keep that here or in the thread that costanza bumped previously.

Appreciate it very much..

neverlookback

so what about the hundreds of kids killed by the corporation of the US every week? ya, were not going to talk about that.. that wont pull at the heart strings as much.

oh and I found this little tid bit today. But we wont also talk about this little slip up by the media in this 'event'... shes dead.. no shes alive! haha (principal)

read this...
Shooting Reported Sandy Hook Elementary School | The Newtown Bee

then this...
Dawn Hochsprung: Sandy Hook Elementary

I think for the local news it is a big slip up..or isnt it monitored by the controllers?
Maybe just a fault in the heat? Tough it seems this inital report was very fast out..

ps.. this IS a news update.

Milo

**Christ**

The reporting at the start of ANY chaotic incident is haphazard at best. Hell, the Titanic was reported to be steaming to New York long after she hit the bottom of the Atlantic. What is your point? If it is anything other than that reporters occasionally jump the gun in an effort to scoop the competition, then you are not providing a news update. Come to think of it, what I just posted isn't exactly "news" either . . .

Foxrod

Thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Newtown CT...

Morgan Freeman's statement about these random shootings....

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."

compuease

neverlookback;342279 wroteso what about the hundreds of kids killed by the corporation of the US every week? ya, were not going to talk about that.. that wont pull at the heart strings as much.

If there was a dislike you would get it.. Geesh, you and others like you are so cynical..:(

wildbill7145

compuease;342285 wroteIf there was a dislike you would get it.. Geesh, you and others like you are so cynical..:(

Ditto.

Milo

neverlookback;342279 wroteso what about the hundreds of kids killed by the corporation of the US every week?

How about the millions killed by enviro-weenies who got DDT banned. I mean, if we're going to start pulling our favourite memes out for a good airing, have at it . . .

Or, we could, for once, stay on topic. and no, neither yours nor mine are that.

wildbill7145

This is kind of crazy.
Newtown Church Evacuated | NBC Connecticut

Hellmuth's Mole

Foxrod;342284 wroteThoughts and prayers go out to the people of Newtown CT...

Morgan Freeman's statement about these random shootings....

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."

a) They're not Morgan Freeman's thoughts.

b) Murders and even moreso mass murders are covered this way in any country by their media. They just happen in the US way more often because of the ease of access of guns.

SuperNed

Hellmuth's Mole;342361 wrotea) They're not Morgan Freeman's thoughts.

b) Murders and even moreso mass murders are covered this way in any country by their media. They just happen in the US way more often because of the ease of access of guns.

Interesting those comments were not from Freeman, but again, with the media the way it is today, not surprising in the least.
Ask yourself this mole, and again, I'm not into getting into a big debate here. What has changed in the past 20 years? Certainly not access to guns. They've been highly available for 100 years. Yet somehow in the past 20 years....even moreso in the past 10 years these crazy people seem to want to go out and take innocent lives with them. What has changed?

Milo

The cult of celebrity has increased it's hold. From Honey-Boo-Boo, to Dave Hester, to Omarosa. If you get on TV, even in the most embarassing and ridiculing way, you are somehow a celebrity. So, if you are not getting the attention you think you are due, or you feel the world owes you something, or that you owe the world some payback . . . then doing what what this disturbed young man did becomes a viable option. And for a foreign reference, look to Anders Breivik. Ranting on the interwebz is one thing, but this guy is now a whack-job star.

Hellmuth's Mole

SuperNed;342365 wroteInteresting those comments were not from Freeman, but again, with the media the way it is today, not surprising in the least.
Ask yourself this mole, and again, I'm not into getting into a big debate here. What has changed in the past 20 years? Certainly not access to guns. They've been highly available for 100 years. Yet somehow in the past 20 years....even moreso in the past 10 years these crazy people seem to want to go out and take innocent lives with them. What has changed?

You think nothing has changed in the last 20 years? Unreal.

Sheer numbers alone. The advanced "killability" of the automatic weapons being made today. The change to laws that allow "gun shows" ease of sale rights that stores don't have. And the only gun laws Mr. Anti-Gun president Obama has signed has expanded gun rights.

EDIT: Sorry, also forgot about the prevalence of on-line ammunition and gun sales....obv a bit different from 20 years ago.

Hellmuth's Mole

I could be convinced that open carry is ok if these guys show up.

Westboro Baptist Church Says It Will Picket Vigil For Connecticut School Shooting Victims

SuperNed

Hellmuth's Mole;342368 wroteYou think nothing has changed in the last 20 years? Unreal.

Sheer numbers alone. The advanced "killability" of the automatic weapons being made today. The change to laws that allow "gun shows" ease of sale rights that stores don't have. And the only gun laws Mr. Anti-Gun president Obama has signed has expanded gun rights.

EDIT: Sorry, also forgot about the prevalence of on-line ammunition and gun sales....obv a bit different from 20 years ago.

The advanced 'killability'? Well, considering high powered machine guns themselves have been around in close to their present form for what....70+ years....I think those guns have and always have had plenty of killability.
Gun shows? Again, you are talking about availability that has been around for decades and decades. You think the laws regarding gun shows were more strict in 1965? I'm guessing back then someone would have had a very easy time of piecing together a military weapon and using it for all sorts of mayhem if the idea was planted in their head and they were in a state of mind that many of the nuts today are.
As for on-line ammunition and gun sales, you are getting to the point of the problem....the internet and media and what it is doing to society is a major reason why these things are happening....but availability of guns has very little to do with it :-[

Milo

Hellmuth's Mole;342370 wroteI could be convinced that open carry is ok if these guys show up.

Westboro Baptist Church Says It Will Picket Vigil For Connecticut School Shooting Victims

If true, those Godless scum (I use the term advisedly and literally) will not be allowed within MILES of the funerals . . . it would not be the first time that officialdom, and decent citizens, conspired to thwart them. Hell (see bracket above), we might even see some sort of biblical excoriation of the congregation.

neverlookback

ok here is another nice tid bit of info about the shooting.

Sandy Hook is reference and shown in the batman movie which we all know how that ended on opening night.. look where he is pointing in the pictures!

http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_1.jpg

http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_2.jpg

oh ya, and in a PREVIEW for the batman movie was this..
http://s2.postimage.org/hefmuvv0p/aurora_2.jpg

this is NOT a coincidence. ...
Illuminati code for conduct mandates that they must place warnings of upcoming events. They don't have to be particularly clear, but they must be there.

guys what more proof do you need it was a psy-op just like the batman shooting and many others.

(this is not photoshoped - go watch the bluray yourself)

I am not trying to inflame a terrible day but the truth is more important hence why I also tell everyone on the dangers of fluoride, aspartame etc

The Prophet 22

Hellmuth's Mole;342370 wroteI could be convinced that open carry is ok if these guys show up.

Westboro Baptist Church Says It Will Picket Vigil For Connecticut School Shooting Victims

When people ask me what denomination I am, I usually say Baptist. I might have to clarify that after reading this article. There is a hi lite portion that says God sent the shooter. These people are insane.

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