CT school shooting

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this is outrageous.

Now reports of 30 dead.

I feel sick

Hobbes

DrTyore

Tell me again why it's good to have guns so accessible?

Mark

Hellmuth's Mole

DrTyore;342031 wroteTell me again why it's good to have guns so accessible?

Mark

Come on Mark. This is not the time for talk of gun control.

Even when I try to play devils advocate it makes me incredibly sick to my stomach that statements like that will be the prevailing thought for the next few days. There is nothing but sympathy for the victims and their families in my heart right now and an amazing hope that I never have to experience anything like this, hell I hope no one ever has to experience it again, but that should in no way preclude anyone from speaking out about the fact that guns are too easily accessible in the US, at any time, but especially when tragic events like this occur at an ever increasing rate.

DennisG

DrTyore;342031 wroteTell me again why it's good to have guns so accessible?

Mark

I am shaking my head at this comment..and don't really have time to get back into this debate...especially with someone who is never wrong...nor would admit it if they were.

Quit blaming the fucking tools. Blame the people. These people are sick..if it wasn't one tool, it would be another...plain and simple.

Oh yeah, spoons made me fat.

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Don't think this is the right place for gun control talk.

Also learning that the guy CNN claimed the shooter was, wasn't.. lol CNN

how anyone can go after small children is still bothering me

Had to turn of CNN until the real facts come out

All the speculation and uncertainty and accusations make my head hurt, and tilt me to no end

DrTyore

Alright, I'll meet you all halfway...

The gun comment could be seen as insensitive, but believe me, I'm feeling for the victims and their families. Anyone that knows me knows I have no desire to have kids, and I joke that I don't like kids and such. Truth be told, at least part of it is the fact that this kind of thing, and the sheer terror I can only imagine a parent hearing their kid's school being named on the radio? I couldn't ever pretend to hold it together in that moment... I get panic attacks if I don't immediately find my phone when I'm in public - suddenly my kid may be dead? I'm not that strong, and kudos to the people who have kids.

Mark

JimmyHo

apparently he shot his father before going to the school to shot his mother, who was a teacher there. Someone shots my kid, I'm in jail serving life.

Hellmuth's Mole

DrTyore;342036 wroteAlright, I'll meet you all halfway...

The gun comment could be seen as insensitive, but believe me, I'm feeling for the victims and their families. Anyone that knows me knows I have no desire to have kids, and I joke that I don't like kids and such. Truth be told, at least part of it is the fact that this kind of thing, and the sheer terror I can only imagine a parent hearing their kid's school being named on the radio? I couldn't ever pretend to hold it together in that moment... I get panic attacks if I don't immediately find my phone when I'm in public - suddenly my kid may be dead? I'm not that strong, and kudos to the people who have kids.

Mark

I hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way. This bullshit about a right and wrong time to discuss stricter gun control has got to stop. The way it's going now there's not enough time between shootings for the "cooling off period " to happen.

Also, is the US the only place with crazy people that snap and kill people or is it just that it's the easiest place for them to kill people because of the gun laws?

What would be the harm in eliminating guns? When people start taking out classrooms of kids with bow and arrow or ninja stars we'll cross that bridge.

TheMill

unfucking real....who shoots children?.......FUCKING COWARDS... thats who

Hellmuth's Mole

TheMill;342040 wroteunfucking real....who shoots children?.......FUCKING COWARDS WITH GUNS... thats who

Fyp

Milo

Let us all wait until the investigation concludes, and we have a better idea about the motivation behind this terrible act. Hopefully his brother can shed some light. Until then, I suggest a few words to the God of your choice on behalf of those families who have been devastated by today's events. You might also want to hold your loved ones a little closer tonight, too. This is so sad, and so senseless.

Milo

For the record . . . I have gone over to the dark side. There needs to be a change. Firearms OWNERSHIP should remain legal. Possession of same, outside of VERY NARROW circumstances and locations should be BANNED. You want to hunt? Fine . . . pick up your weapon at the secure facility and go kill Bambi. Just be sure to return your weapon promptly when you're done. Pistol practice? Pick it up at the range, and leave it there when you go home.

I know people who have children in that school. Newtown, CT is near Waterbury, where my employer has a facility. The city is about 20 clicks from where these folks work. I guess I will find out next week if anybody I know lost a loved one.

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not really the place for gun debate milo

mark started that thread ages ago iirc.. someone rebump that if you feel the need to discuss that bullshit.

this is such a sin

Hellmuth's Mole

costanza;342058 wrotenot really the place for gun debate milo

mark started that thread ages ago iirc.. someone rebump that if you feel the need to discuss that bullshit.

this is such a sin

Fuck that. Every place is the place for the discussion and it should have been since these massacres started springing up years ago.

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Hellmuth's Mole;342060 wroteFuck that. Every place is the place for the discussion and it should have been since these massacres started springing up years ago.

Fuck that.

Gun debate is such horse shit.. no one's views is right or wrong and doesnt change anything at all, we just go around in circles. Yes, its in the constitution to bear arms, yes guns are easily accessible, etc, etc.

that discussion ONLY comes up after tragic events, and it doesn't change anything because lives have already been lost.

This thread is in place to discuss the shooting and the story following the tragedy, you guys wanna discuss guns in general, I rebumped that trainwreck from before.

go nuts.

Milo

I was not debating, just putting some thoughts down on a page. I grew up and play poker with a guy who was shot by Michael Slobodian back in the 70's (fuck you, google it), and back then, it WAS an isolated thing. But Mole is right . . . People talk about "prayers for the families", but the truth is this incident just pushes back the prayers for the families in that mall shooting, which pushed back the prayers for the theatre victims, and on and on and on . . . all I am doing is drawing my line in the sand.

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Milo;342063 wroteI was not debating, just putting some thoughts down on a page. I grew up and play poker with a guy who was shot by Michael Slobodian back in the 70's (fuck you, google it), and back then, it WAS an isolated thing. But Mole is right . . . People talk about "prayers for the families", but the truth is this incident just pushes back the prayers for the families in that mall shooting, which pushed back the prayers for the theatre victims, and on and on and on . . . all I am doing is drawing my line in the sand.

fair enough

Milo

costanza;342064 wrotefair enough

I am supposed to give a fuck what you think? Screw you . . .

Hellmuth's Mole

costanza;342062 wroteFuck that.

Gun debate is such horse shit.. no one's views is right or wrong and doesnt change anything at all, we just go around in circles. Yes, its in the constitution to bear arms, yes guns are easily accessible, etc, etc.

that discussion ONLY comes up after tragic events, and it doesn't change anything because lives have already been lost.

This thread is in place to discuss the shooting and the story following the tragedy, you guys wanna discuss guns in general, I rebumped that trainwreck from before.

go nuts.

And what the FUCK does the discussion you want to have here change about this incident?