BB10, RIM and the future

compuease

kwsteve;348144 wroteDoes it use a sim card?

Nevermind, googled it.

Yep, not sure of max size but believe it is at least 64GB..

moose;348146 wroteCompuease: Stock price is still falling. Can you buy 5 or 6 thousand more z10s?

lol, told you it was going to be a bumpy journey, seems to be fluctuating between $14.-18... lol, now where would I find 5-6000..? Seems like there is a definite shortage.. You can't look at this as short term...

SuperNed

God this thing is a traders dream....it's almost a crime not to try to sell some on/near the peaks and buy back at 20-25% off a week later

JimmyHo

had my finger on the trigger at $17..oh well.

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pokerJAH;348172 wrotehad my finger on the trigger at $17..oh well.

lol, me too... $20. here we come... then ??

compuease

Ok figured out how to load all the free (paid) apps I have accumulated for the Playbook on the Z10.. woohoo, more free stuff... This is getting better every day. However some of these games, especially car racing games sure suck up power...

back up to $15.05 today

compuease

Just bought some more at $14.10.. My avg is now $11.15. I have about as much invested in one stock as I would dare do at the moment... Think there will be many more of these fluctuations over the coming months... Will likely take some profits when we get to $17. again.. Then buy again on next downturn...

compuease

still bouncing around the $14. mark, where to from here? Interesting UK review and seemingly neutral prognosis posted below. While unscientific it does appear to be well done. Apparently there are a lot of short sellers who may lose their shirt on this one...

BlackBerry Outsells Competition At The U.K.'s Largest Retail Store And In Business Sales - Seeking Alpha

wildbill7145

I had no idea they hadn't released this thing in the US yet.

BlackBerry Z10 U.S. Launch Prepped - Mobility - Smartphones -

moose

It's just another example of their bad management. Samsung S4 launches in US this week -- because they had their shit together.

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moose;349677 wroteIt's just another example of their bad management. Samsung S4 launches in US this week -- because they had their shit together.

Did you perhaps lose some money betting on BB when they were >$100.? Sure seem to have a hate on...:confused:

holychow

BlackBerry has made so many mistakes. Taking forever to launch OS 10 being one of them. They let another year go by and missed several key shipping dates putting the "final touches" on their new OS. They launch first in the smaller markets (Canada is only 10% of the US population) and overseas and then hold the US launch until later in the year? How does that make sense? I don't understand that strategy. That either means they aren't projecting very strong US sales or their manufacturing capacity isn't up to the task.

Perhaps if they pulled their heads out of their a$$es and looked around, they might be in better shape. During their fall, Android has capitalized and taken the majority of the market and Samsung ridden this wave to number one phone manufacturer.

actyper

US gov`t just purchased 1 million units btw.

Launch delay had more to do with the US carriers rather than manufacturing capacity.

Company has made a shit load of mistakes, but they`re on the right track back up.

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how are u liking yours ash?

my 3 year plan with my 3gs is fucking OVER and i cant wait to get a new phone lol

800OVER

holychow;349726 wroteBlackBerry has made so many mistakes. Taking forever to launch OS 10 being one of them. They let another year go by and missed several key shipping dates putting the "final touches" on their new OS. They launch first in the smaller markets (Canada is only 10% of the US population) and overseas and then hold the US launch until later in the year? How does that make sense? I don't understand that strategy. That either means they aren't projecting very strong US sales or their manufacturing capacity isn't up to the task.

Perhaps if they pulled their heads out of their a$$es and looked around, they might be in better shape. During their fall, Android has capitalized and taken the majority of the market and Samsung ridden this wave to number one phone manufacturer.

Do you think that BB had control over the launch in the US or did they provide the US companies with the BB hardware at the same time as they did for other markets? ALL markets received the product at the same time...the carriers control the launch in the US. Has nothing to do with capacity.

Card Dead

The US delay is a little more complex than that. BB has trouble getting US carriers on board with their products in general, and the Z10 was no different. Service plans and pricing are way different in the states, not to mention the US market's appetite for apps and cool factor vs functionality and security (US gov. excepted, of course), as well as their current propensity to support US based companies.

So BB felt it was better to launch first in their stronger markets like Europe, Asia, and the Middle East, build some chatter, get some market reviews going, and then hopefully it will be better received in the states. It also gives them more time to work out carrier agreements and build inventory.

I don't know that it's the right strategy - time will tell - but ther was some thought put into it.

moose

compuease;349683 wroteDid you perhaps lose some money betting on BB when they were >$100.? Sure seem to have a hate on...:confused:

As I said before, when I was working for RIM they would be working on 3 models simultaneously, one in planning, one in design and one heading to production and releasing a new model a minimum of every 8 months. That was how they stayed current and ahead of the competition.

Delaying the release of the z10 by over a year destroyed the company's market share and even with the ridiculous delay they couldn't get it ready in time for US market testing so they could launch simultaneously in all markets?

Samsung seemed to understand the importance of launching in the US first. I'm sure BB did too but they couldn't achieve it = bad management

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moose;349783 wroteAs I said before, when I was working for RIM

I have a feeling there is more to this story...:-X

GTA Poker

compuease;349789 wroteI have a feeling there is more to this story...:-X

Cuz he had a rim job?

Hellmuth's Mole

compuease;349789 wroteI have a feeling there is more to this story...:-X

GTA Poker;349790 wroteCuz he had a rim job?

That's usually a story with a happy ending.

800OVER

Card Dead;349781 wroteThe US delay is a little more complex than that. BB has trouble getting US carriers on board with their products in general, and the Z10 was no different. Service plans and pricing are way different in the states, not to mention the US market's appetite for apps and cool factor vs functionality and security (US gov. excepted, of course), as well as their current propensity to support US based companies.

So BB felt it was better to launch first in their stronger markets like Europe, Asia, and the Middle East, build some chatter, get some market reviews going, and then hopefully it will be better received in the states. It also gives them more time to work out carrier agreements and build inventory.

I don't know that it's the right strategy - time will tell - but ther was some thought put into it.

UMMM Heins came right out and said ALL countries got product at the same time....the carrier testing process is what changed the delivery time. BB didn't decide the release dates. If they had control they would have had the US deliveries started by now.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/us-delay-hampers-rims-bb10-rollout/article8094628/

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