costanza;337935 wroteyour 5.5:1 math is skewed when there is 3 ppl in the pot instead of 2. . .
and jamming here if you ARE deeper is even worse than being so shallow at a FT
J high FFS
K2s > j9o
its really not even close here.
I don't know what your fixation is with the actual hand strength.
Do you call the extra 27k with J9o if it's folded to you in the BB?
- The pot is 98k and you need to put in 27k. You should probably be calling with any two.
If you knew with 100% certainty that CL was going to fold to a shove, do you shove with J9o?
- You're still just up against UTG in the same situation as before but the pot's got an extra 47k in it so a shove should make even more sense.
The closer your actual fold equity is to 100%, the more a shove would be a good play. If the read on the opponent is that he's super strong and trapping, then obviously shoving is terrible. When I read the hand, I didn't necessarily think CL was strong and I would at least consider trying to isolate.
This makes sense to me. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. But you'd need to give a better explanation of why rather than king high > jack high with no context.