River Value Bets

djgolfcan

Did I miss a value bet on the river ? What do we do if he check raises us ?

PokerStars Hand #87318700700: Tournament #650011347, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (200/400) - 2012/10/07 20:21:14 ET
Table '650011347 509' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: vili670 (11425 in chips)
Seat 2: BTAAZUL (29800 in chips)
Seat 3: chrystmass (9547 in chips)
Seat 4: hylle86 (20012 in chips)
Seat 5: simtbest (42620 in chips)
Seat 6: arazw aneta7 (8486 in chips)
Seat 7: sears008 (56741 in chips)
Seat 8: djgolfcan (13731 in chips)
Seat 9: VixenKoala (1685 in chips)
vili670: posts the ante 50
BTAAZUL: posts the ante 50
chrystmass: posts the ante 50
hylle86: posts the ante 50
simtbest: posts the ante 50
arazw aneta7: posts the ante 50
sears008: posts the ante 50
djgolfcan: posts the ante 50
VixenKoala: posts the ante 50
VixenKoala: posts small blind 200
vili670: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to djgolfcan [Ah Ac]
BTAAZUL: folds
chrystmass: folds
hylle86: folds
simtbest: folds
arazw aneta7: folds
sears008: folds
djgolfcan: raises 400 to 800
VixenKoala: folds
vili670: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [4s Tc 8c]
vili670: checks
djgolfcan: bets 1200
vili670: calls 1200
*** TURN *** [4s Tc 8c] [Kd]
vili670: checks
djgolfcan: bets 2000
vili670: calls 2000
*** RIVER *** [4s Tc 8c Kd] [Qs]
vili670: checks
djgolfcan: ??

compuease

I my mind no.. If he was calling you with A,10, he is likely not calling a river bet of any significance. If it was a missed draw he is not calling anyways.. The only value I can see is making him call another bet to see your AA..

What do you think his impression of you is?

djgolfcan

compuease;333708 wroteI my mind no.. If he was calling you with A,10, he is likely not calling a river bet of any significance. If it was a missed draw he is not calling anyways.. The only value I can see is making him call another bet to see your AA..

What do you think his impression of you is?

I think he thinks I was trying to steal his blind.

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djgolfcan;333709 wroteI think he thinks I was trying to steal his blind.

then vbet heavy lol

djgolfcan

costanza;333711 wrotethen vbet heavy lol

but what hands will call us, that dont beat us ?

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checking back aces with villians check call line , would be one of the most L-O-L things ive ever seen

compuease

djgolfcan;333712 wrotebut what hands will call us, that dont beat us ?

A,10 if he thinks you are stealing...

Wetts1012

costanza;333713 wrotechecking back aces with villians check call line , would be one of the most L-O-L things ive ever seen

Im not sure checking back would be a terrible play on this board. I think we've already got 2 streets of value and alot of the hands that will call/float 2 streets arent necessarily calling river bets 99/A10/JT etc. Those that got there are.