costanza;323803 wroteSnap 3b pre, I hate the flat
You need to stop 'snap' doing anything.
costanza;323827 wrotewat?
PLAYING FOR STACKS IS ALWAYS NECESSARY IMO
Why so caps lock?
costanza;323860 wroteFlatting jacks Here is horrible
If villian on the puck is any sort of competent , this is a great spot for a squeeze with a wide range.
Flatting jacks isn't horrible. This isn't a great spot for a squeeze nor is bu squeeze range very wide
costanza;323994 wrote3 betting here allows us to put villian(s) on a way more specific range .
this is not a reason to 3 bet, I wrote the reasons above...you are ignoring them
If we 3b in this spot and get 4b behind, or by utg, we can assume that their ranges are always TT+ aq+ . We can flat their 4b and easily fold if overs come... if they shove on our 3b, we can always assume that they have AK, KK, QQ, TT maaayyyyyybe AQ, and even then we are flipping/dominated so if they move in, we will be all like:-\
This is the opposite way to play poker. Any time you 3betting and then he 4bets and say to yourself ":-\Oh fuck:-\" you know you are doing it wrong.
do we get it in pre here?
no thats ridiculous
Personally, I would consider it lol. for me, the deeper stacked I am, the better- I can open up more
Nope.
3,4,5b light, and start being hyper aggro
I'd recommend not doing any such thing.
... its worth it to me to hopefully be flipping so that I can have my edge.
Your edge comes from not doing any of this stuff, not from putting your stack in with a marginal hand against villains nutted range.
this might sound like an insane reasoning but its the way it is.
yes its insane and no its not the way it is at all
I always feel like I need to get deep so I can start playing post flop with villians
You are as deep as you get in tourney poker, and you are avoiding post flop by trying to go the chips in pre.
For others, maybe playing a more passive style, and waiting to get your money in good and chipping up that way is better.. its less variance and it works.
Its not less variance to wait to get your money in good, its winning poker.
Some people's pre flop game is sharper than playing post flop and factoring in hand equity, value, and pricing to peel cards
Now you are just saying random poker words.
Also, I forgot to mention... Alot of these type of decisions are very villian dependant.. so note taking and HUD stats are even more helpful on putting villians on ranges and determining where we stand pre.
Yes but you have to use them for them to help.
should also add, in this hand, its villian dependant
What exactly did you depend on to make this decision?
.. there's no questioning Jacks suck, period.
Yes there is questioning it because Jacks don't suck at all, they are among the top 2 percent hands you can be dealt.
also, utg isnt nutted, his lead is way to big to be value....
Utg is obviously nutted and betting for value.