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Poker Stars, $2.28 + $0.22 NL Hold'em Tournament, 2,000/4,000 Blinds, 400 Ante, 8 Players

UTG: 30,420
JodaB. (UTG+1): 71,006
MP1: 17,754
MP2: 5,154
CO: 34,253
BTN: 65,384
SB: 30,743
BB: 15,286

Pre-Flop: (9,200) A

dealt to JodaB. (UTG+1)
UTG folds, JodaB. calls 4,000, 3 folds, BTN calls 4,000, SB folds, BB checks

Flop: (17,200) 5

(3 Players)
BB checks, JodaB. bets 8,000, 2 folds

Results: 17,200 Pot
JodaB. showed A T and WON 17,200 (+13,200 NET)

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darbday;305929 wrotePoker Stars, $2.28 + $0.22 NL Hold'em Tournament, 2,000/4,000 Blinds, 400 Ante, 8 Players

UTG: 30,420
JodaB. (UTG+1): 71,006
MP1: 17,754
MP2: 5,154
CO: 34,253
BTN: 65,384
SB: 30,743
BB: 15,286

Pre-Flop: (9,200) A T dealt to JodaB. (UTG+1)
UTG folds, JodaB. calls 4,000, 3 folds, BTN calls 4,000, SB folds, BB checks

Flop: (17,200) 5 3 9 (3 Players)
BB checks, JodaB. bets 8,000, 2 folds

Results: 17,200 Pot
JodaB. showed A T and WON 17,200 (+13,200 NET)

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reibs

When I first looked at this I went .... Oh no he didn't!?!

But when I think about it I think I can figure out why...

So are you limping here due to stack sizes? I assume you want to get into an all in situation with one of MP1/MP2/BB? And if you min it, then you are committing yourself against some of the middlish stacks....Whereas if you limp, you can prob fold to a shove from those guys.

Not sure about this one...

Card Dead

Not sure why you posted this hand. Looks pretty run of the mill to me.

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Card Dead;305964 wroteNot sure why you posted this hand. Looks pretty run of the mill to me.

have you been open limping at your ft's ^-^>:D:-\

GTA Poker;305935 wroteno like

wwyd?

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LOL limping here EP

:bs:

betrthanphil

sigh, and here i thought you were making progress :(

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darbday;305973 wrotehave you been open limping at your ft's ^-^>:D:-\

wwyd?

I assume you did it due to stack sizes and not table dynamics or player tendencies. Are there some dynamics that we don't know about? I never play these -- where are you at in the level and how long are the levels?

I assume this is not being done to induce, but to try and play it safe wrt medium stacks. I think it's a min raise spot. Letting BB in for free just isn't worth the limp with 9.2k dead in the middle preflop...as always giving yourself more ways to win by raising > playing safe by limping.

What was you plan wrt calling shoves preflop? If you are planning on folding to shoves by 30k stacks, which I am assuming is the purpose of the limp then the limp is even more exploitable than just giving a cheap/free flop. Limping can easily make you fold the best hand. Again, I am wondering if there is/are player(s) with stats/tendencies that you haven't mentioned.

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betrthanphil;306001 wrotesigh, and here i thought you were making progress :(

wwyyyyyyyyyddddddddddd

betrthanphil

raise and call anyones all in but buttons lol
seems fairly standard

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GTA Poker;306003 wroteis even more exploitable

Exploitable is not a bad thing. In order to play optimally we need to be exploitable. Not saying that justifies this limp, but its not a supporting point against.

Don't need reads here, theres only like 4 or 5 regs I would even consider not doing this against and I'd prob do it anyways.

As for as 'exploitable' and balanced goes, you just need to do this with some monsters....

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betrthanphil;306010 wroteraise and call anyones all in but buttons lol
seems fairly standard

not optimal?

betrthanphil

darbday;306014 wrotenot optimal?

:bs:

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id rather fold than min raise, hence the limp

edit: fold pre

betrthanphil

darbday;306100 wroteid rather fold than min raise, hence the limp

edit: fold pre

:baffled:

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betrthanphil;306165 wrote:baffled:

pirate face?

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darbday;306100 wroteid rather fold than min raise, hence the limp

edit: fold pre

So what stacks are you limp folding to?

reibs

GTA Poker;306191 wrotepirate face?

^^ reminded me of ....

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darbday;306100 wroteid rather fold than min raise, hence the limp

edit: fold pre

What's your standard raise? I would think min raise is standard at this level with these stacks.

Vekked

I don't mind experimenting with limping but in this particular spot there's sooo much value in stealing, ESPECIALLY with the blockers. If you're folding this pre I *think* you're playing a bit too tight. I mean it's not absurdly tight to fold here, I likely wouldn't open A9o too often, but I'd open ATo nearly every time, ESPECIALLY at lowstakes FT.

Limping is best when raise/folding is kind of lame. Like maybe if you have 30-40BB on the button with 87s or something and you're getting 3-bet to shit from the blinds. I'm not positive that's a good spot to limp cuz I just never do, but that's the sort of spot where you want to start looking to do it.

Another spot is like 50BB pre-ante in the hijack with 77 vs. a couple very good lags on the CO/button. Raise/shoving is too much vs. someone good enough to not be too exploitable, raise/calling a 3-bet sucks, raise/folding is probably not showing a profit, so limp/calling most raises is probably going to be a decent option, especially if you know which flops to donk bet and such.