ivey, lindgren, benyamine, flack, greenstein owe millions to full tilt

kwsteve

If you owe someone a legal debt and you don't pay you should go on the deadbeat list.

trigs

Richard~;298237 wrotea bit more on topic, I thought that the reason full tilt was never taken to court for the scandal was because they operate outside the usa. am I wrong about that?

is this true? wait, aren't they (i.e. the owners - bitar, ferguson, lederer, etc.) still possibly going to court?

trigs

Richard~;298238 wroteI settle the problems and debts I have with the people involved. Now you're just needlessly accusing me of being dishonest

wtf? so then why shouldn't greenstein et al pay their debt back? man you're making my head spin.

i'm done. you win. still never lending you anything. nothing personal.

well...actually i guess technically it is personal, but i don't think less of you.

Richard~

let me put it like this, the moment the full tilt owners are accountable for what they did to the full tilt players I believe greenstein should pay them back their money

Cerberus

Milo;298218 wroteWrong on so many levels . . .

Barry owes Full Tilt $"X". Regardless of who will eventually own it (Tapie does not yet own any part of FTP, they have just made an offer), this debt owed. Whether he pays it to the DoJ, the Receiver, or puts in escrow until things are resolved, he does not haver any moral authority to withold payment.

That being said, Tapie Group can GTFO re: asking for the $$$.

This. I highly doubt he actually has the money lying around to begin with, especially with talking about setting up a payment plan with the DOJ, if it came down to that. Either way, not taking a marker from him should I ever btp or vekked it up and get to that level.

Muddguts

djgolfcan;298209 wroteI will be e-mailing pokerstars that if this is the type of person they endorse, then I will not be playing there any more.
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Then who will keep the brags, beats and variance sub forum alive?

philliivey

djgolfcan;298209 wrotePokerStars should drop Greenstein like a bad habit. I will be e-mailing pokerstars that if this is the type of person they endorse, then I will not be playing there any more.

I'll switch to playing live.

lololol, no you won't.:)

philliivey

Sooooo proud of trigs for this thread.;):).

Also I am surprised at Richard's post (s) about the court thing, cause he is right.

Milo

Richard~;298238 wroteI settle the problems and debts I have with the people involved.

EXACTLY THE POINT.

Barry owes money to Full Tilt, and so he should settle up . . . NOW.

Milo

Richard~;298242 wrotelet me put it like this, the moment the full tilt owners are accountable for what they did to the full tilt players I believe greenstein should pay them back their money

That is not what you said in your other post that I quoted above. Try to remain consistant. It makes debate easier.

Milo

philliivey;298255 wroteSooooo proud of trigs for this thread.;):).

I feel so . . . empty.

philliivey

Milo;298260 wroteI feel so . . . empty.

oh no no no, your posts are good as well.:)

Milo

k-thx . . .

jontm

compuease;298230 wroteThought it had been kinda quiet in here for a couple of days, wondered where the next firestorm might flare up... :)

Damm it! I wanted to start this thread. F-in day job. good thing I'm winning the lotto max tonight...

My not borrowed 2 cents after I catch up on convo.

Richard~

Milo;298259 wroteThat is not what you said in your other post that I quoted. Try to remain consistant. It makes debate easier.

yeah, I probably didn't say it but I based my reasoning on full tilt being outside the legal system at this time

Milo

Richard~;298269 wroteyeah, I probably didn't say it but I based my reasoning on full tilt being outside the legal system at this time

Another error, as evidenced by the fact that there is an ongoing legal case against Full Tilt at the moment.

I agree with you on one point, though . . . people should pay their debts promptly, or make arrangements to do so over time. I just do not see how you avoid applying this logic to Barry and the others. What FTP has done to you, me, or Santa Claus is not germane to the fact the these folks owe FTP some $$$.

jontm

Daniel Negreanu Fans Several Poker Flames In Interview, Claims He Was Misquoted

This is just the icing on the cake. If anything good comes of Black Friday, it's that illusions have been shattered and the next generation of players will know what they are getting into.

These people knew how to play before anyone else did and some have kept up, while others are just actors paid to sell an image and a dream. Yes there is borrowing in gambling, but a deadbeat by any other name or excuse is still a deadbeat. What one person owes a person in debt is only an excuse.

The line Barry took reminds me of the story of Duke not paying Hamilton the money she borrowed as CASH to buy a house. It was all to easy to point the finger, yell scum and walk away. As far as the people he stole it from, yeah, they deserved it back.

A few years ago I wanted to spit in Joan Rivers face when she made the comments she did about Vegas and poker players. Now I applaude her call. Don't take that the wrong way, we all know there are great people in the community, but there are definetly a lot of hustlers out there too. On both sides of the felts.

Richard~

Milo;298271 wroteAnother error, as evidenced by the fact that there is an ongoing legal case against Full Tilt at the moment.

I agree with you on one point, though . . . people should pay their debts promptly, or make arrangements to do so over time. I just do not see how you avoid applying this logic to Barry and the others. What FTP has done to you, me, or Santa Claus is not germane to the fact the these folks owe FTP some $$$.

that's one error, and I don't need evdence, I just need someone to tell me there is a case. I don't like the logic of paying back money if the guys you pay it to will use it to move to europe and change their names

Milo

Then he shouldn't have borrowed their money. You cannot complain about the loan shark's rates AFTER you take his money. And you cannot get on your moral high horse after borrowing money from scoundrels, either (was going to say thieves, but nothing is proven as of yet).

Pinhead

Ok, but how many fucking ounces and are in a Tim's XL?

And I'm pretty sure somebody owes me one right now. I owe somebody else one but that'll have to wait until I gets mine.

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