Richard~;283278 wroteI don't really think squeezes behind me are a big problem preflop. If they do maybe I'll call them and maybe I'll fold, how bad could it be lol.
I think squeezes happen in a $500 more than your acknowledging. And it could be quite bad. Making this flat without planning ahead is a large leak.
Richard~;283278 wroteAs I said, it's a perfect flop to cbet for villain forcing the BB to defend for his stack as you said, if BB shoves here with no equity that seems like a losing play for him
Hes not going to shove with no equity, but you're floating the flop with no equity putting yourself in a spot where I assume you fold to PF or flop jams... or calling and finding yourself dominated. Both are bad scenarios where you've put money into the pot on two streets without a clear and reliable plan to win the pot
Richard~;283278 wroteI could obviously 3bet pre, but I wanted to mix it up, 3 betting isn't the only way to play, especially considering how poor many regs are postflop.
If you must play A8o, I do obviously prefer 3b because it gives multiple ways to win the pot. Instead of calling yourself into a potentially tough spot, you can use aggression to force your opponents into one. If this reg is poor postflop, I can only assume that 3betting and taking the flop in position with the lead benefits you and hurts him. Think about when you 3b his opens when he holds hands like AT-AQ 88-JJ : many players will flat you OOP pf and check, sigh, fold when you cb this K high flop - and many other boards/textures!
Richard~;283278 wroteBy saying I wish I would've treated my hand like a bluff I didn't mean I wish I would've bet turn but rather that I would've called river. Raisefolding river is probably viable but I generally don't like raisefolding big hands on dry boards cause I have a major trustissue from playing regs on betsson lol.
I think you're right, calling river is > shoving. There is always that special kind of european player that might also have trustissues when you flat flop and check back turn that might look you up with < 2 pair , so knowledge of the specific opponent can really come in handy here
Richard~;283278 wroteI'm not sure it's intentional from people in this thread but I get the feeling a lot of people are going "sigh, A8 is a terrible hand, this is a perfect example of how you can get in trouble with it" which is just silly. Again, the small raise on river is probably an idea, but I kinda like a flat over a small raise in that spot, don't know if I'm the only one
Some people might be, but others are engaging in discussions and hopefully learning from it. I think a couple other good examples of how you get in trouble with it are QJ2 flop with 3 of a suit that you dont have, or K8x flops when you call a flop bet and he fires turn.
My message is more A8o is a terrible hand TO FLAT PF, especially with two shovestacks behind.
With respect to your river decision, since you are saying $500 regs are poor postflop its up to you to evaluate their weaknesses and make the play that extracts the most value. After flatting A8o pf, maybe thats calling and maybe its raising, it depends on the specific opponent/betsizing, just dont fold after making running 2 pair :)