Another bet sizing yuh....

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kinda just want to shove most flops.....

Poker Stars, $50 + $5 NL Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds, 9 Players

UTG+2: 8,380
MP1: 401
MP2: 3,475
CO: 6,058
BTN: 4,830
SB: 9,215
JodaB. (BB): 4,159
UTG: 9,155
UTG+1: 10,446

Pre-Flop: (300) K

dealt to JodaB. (BB)
6 folds, BTN raises to 495, SB calls 395, JodaB. raises to ???

Richard~

Shibbit?

DrTyore

Barring reads on the guy, it's a push

I take the "M" value thing here and re-evaluate, pot is essentially 800, x5 = 4k, you have 4.1k. I'm not entirely sure if this is an unreasonable extension of M values, but yea... I push.

Unless the guy's stats show he raises like 5% of the time.

Mark

trigs

ship.

calling sucks because you're out of position to the raiser and you have no idea where you stand in the hand.

folding is an option if opponents are insanely tight.

pot is 1190 which is already 29% of your stack so raise means all in. i'd most likely push.

Richard~

I think you were talking about this a lot before. Push, it looks weaker ^^'

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Richard~;282667 wroteI think you were talking about this a lot before. Push, it looks weaker ^^'

that was me that said that...and others that disagreed....:-\

Scotty12

trigs;282664 wrotecalling sucks because you're out of position to the raiser and you have no idea where you stand in the hand.

folding is an option if opponents are insanely tight.

pot is 1190 which is already 29% of your stack so raise means all in.

2/3 aint bad, folding is not an option

Richard~;282667 wrotePush, it looks weaker ^^'

Strongly agree

Richard~

darbday;282668 wrotethat was me that said that...and others that disagreed....:-\

that was completely different. I don't remember the details, but it was

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Richard~;283268 wrotethat was completely different. I don't remember the details, but it was

ok .....you ....were the one who said we were talking about it before ;p

i would like to know whats different because i thought i was told to never push this. But if im wrong then i would like to know the difference between the two.

Also I would like to see the ranges we feel will call/fold if i 3bet vs the ranges that will call fold if i shove.

I do remember also V saying that we are printing money when we get a guy to call a 3bet and play fit or fold on the flop.

Why is shoving better than a go and go?

Richard~

I think you were 26 bigs deep in the other scenario or something like that where you're not expected to straight up shove wide

ryanghall

DrTyore;282649 wroteBarring reads on the guy, it's a push

Mark

Wrong.

It's ALWAYS a push.

ryanghall

I would push this against my grandmother playing with her last $50.