betrthanphil;279085 wroteok heres my thoughts, first off getem, im never raising flop. ever haha. DJ your thoughts are almost perfect but not quite. The way you read the hand is why I think its a call. What hands can he check raise the river. 45, 85, 108 and 77 I think are the only ones. Now 108 and 85 are very unlikely unless it was combo with a flush draw. 45 is possible but i see him leading the river and 77 and I like a check raise on the river. But as you said he knows I have something but am not that strong, so any bet he makes on river im prob going to call, so his only way to win the pot on the river is a check raise IMO so he looks super strong. I did end up calling after thinking it all through and he had a8s.
SO dj if he thought i had something but wasnt that strong id expect him to just value the river.
did we opr this villain tho?
edit: what i mean is rather than deciding to turn his into a bluff i always feel like guys are checking and then once you bet they decide to try and turn their hands into a flush ;p