darbday;273029 wroteWhat ever vekked agreed with is actually what i meant...
what i am also saying is that turbo requires a different skillset...different than longer structure which involve decisions more like a deeperstack cash game..
alot of people think you need to build a deepstack early in order to win a turbo, much like people think the secret to rebuys is to bust a bunch of times and load your table with money or until you get a big stack taking marginal spots.
These thoughts stop people from seeing where the edge in these games lie...
until they don't see a turbo as a luckfest they will always fold to much and shove too loose.
You missed our thread on this vekked ill try to dig up the link...maybe dennis can....
Yeah, that discussion started with that AK hand and wanting to get chips early in a turbo vs a non turbo.
but our conversation in person in regards to turbos vs non turbos was that you didn't feel there was a difference in strategies. You basically play each hand as it is. Stack size is what it is this hand, and blinds are what they are...You play each hand as an individual. To this, I guess I can't disagree..
But I am torn... overall, I still feel like we need to approach the whole tournament slightly more aggressive. We are not going to see as many hands overall in a turbo vs. non...so we aren't going to have as many good hands in position, or premiums throughout the game...in turn, I feel like I need to open up the ranges some to account for the lack of hands we are going to see..
I can definitely see (myself, as it has been shown I can be a spewtard shorter stacked) making more mistakes in these with open shoves.(working on that :P )