M or BB?

djgolfcan

darbday;293552 wroteyou must not use M

While I usually appreciate short answers, I believe this should be expanded on with a why.

Hobbes

djgolfcan;293571 wroteWhile I usually appreciate short answers, I believe this should be expanded on with a why.

because :D

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djgolfcan;293571 wroteWhile I usually appreciate short answers, I believe this should be expanded on with a why.

just suggest your biased ^-^

trigs

i use M. i have it on my HUD. i just find it much easier to relate to than BBs.

HammerDad

Live, I use BB for when my stack is over 30bb and M for when I get lower than 30bb. I find it a nice balance of not having to over think and calculate too much.

Online, when I had a HUD, I used M.

BlondeFish

Do any HEM users use its "Tourney Adj BB" stat? Does it use the same formula I use (BB + 2/3 of total antes)?

Hobbes;293505 wroteDoes this stat still have some issues with new tables / blind chnages?

Yes, PT & HEM don't use real-time stats so their so-called "live" stats are actually from the previous hand history. The ideal poker software would improve upon the real-time stats of programs such as Holdem/Tournament Indicator and combine them with the comprehensive database features of PT4/HM2.

Vekked

BlondeFish;293500 wroteWhat about adjusting the BB for the antes? For example, if the blind level is 100/200 + 25 ante with ten players, what Colin Moshman, hotjenny314, zerosum79, etc. do is add 2/3 of the total antes to the BB to get the effective number of big blinds, e.g., (25 * 10) * 2/3 + 200 = 367 effective BB instead of the inaccurate 200 BB.

This could be a valid option, when I get home I'll run some numbers and see how accurate effective BB is.

ryanghall

HammerDad;293758 wroteLive, I use BB for when my stack is over 30bb and M for when I get lower than 30bb. I find it a nice balance of not having to over think and calculate too much.

Online, when I had a HUD, I used M.

Pretty much this. Not going by M when you're short is silly because different tournaments can have wildly differing sizes of antes, and this must be accounted for.

Rob_10108

BBs for sure way, easier to calculate when multitabling and when antes are introduced.
And push charts? lol how bout some good old fashioned brain power? I think if we need to use push charts for calculating BB's/M than we have bigger leaks in our game then deciding whether to use M or BB.

SuitedPair

BlondeFish;293500 wrote
I configured a custom statistic in PokerTracker so I use this adjusted BB in my HUDs, including my highly customized HUD for heads-up play.

I want to know about this. proprietary or would you be willing to share?

my HU game is lacking something for sure. way too many seconds

BlondeFish

Vekked;294353 wroteThis could be a valid option, when I get home I'll run some numbers and see how accurate effective BB is.

Were you able to verify that using adjusted BB is much better than ignoring the antes? Stack size in adjusted BB is exactly 1.5 of M, e.g., having 15 adjusted BB is exactly the same as having an M of 10.

Unfortunately, most strategy material talk in terms of unadjusted BB instead of M. For example, the MIT course talks about jam/folding anytime you have 15 BB or less. This doesn't make sense to me as it would be more optimal to have a lower raise than all-in if I have 1500 chips and the blinds are only 50/100 (M=10).

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