This deal addresses every need the Jays had going into next season. Pitching, 2nd base, a proven gold glove short stop. Again, if they stay healthy, they have a chance.
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You have to expect they should at least get the 2nd wild card... if they can't it is an epic failure.

Johnson has one year left on deal.. who knows if he'll stay.. if they miss probably not.
Can't remember who it was on TSN that said "this makes the Blue Jays contenders for the World Series."

Wow.

Methinks he oversells this one just a smidge.
Cerberus;338683 wroteCan't remember who it was on TSN that said "this makes the Blue Jays contenders for the World Series."

Wow.

Methinks he oversells this one just a smidge.

CMON MAN .... Have faith.

In two or three weeks when the lockout is announced to be over, the leafs will pick up Luongo and instantly be contenders for the Stanley Cup!

:D

I just want my fav teams to do well for a change......... #sadreebsyface.
Macke;338681 wroteYou have to expect they should at least get the 2nd wild card... if they can't it is an epic failure.

Johnson has one year left on deal.. who knows if he'll stay.. if they miss probably not.
I don't expect anything, it's only November and the Blue Jays still play in the AL East. There's still a ton of time for the Yankees and/or Red Sox to buy whatever talent they see fit. The Orioles will still be strong and Tampa won't fade away either.
JohnnieH;338693 wroteI don't expect anything, it's only November and the Blue Jays still play in the AL East. There's still a ton of time for the Yankees and/or Red Sox to buy whatever talent they see fit. The Orioles will still be strong and Tampa won't fade away either.
Johnnie is bang on. How many think that that the Yankees won't be in the Josh Hamilton sweepstakes. The won the east without an everyday LF, and a part time 3rd base guy in A-Rod. They will also be in any bidding for Zack Greinke, and anyone else they think will take a boat load of money to come to the big apple.

I love the Jays but this trade only gets them a couple of games over .500. We need a left handed power bat who can play everyday in the outfield and someone who can play second and have an ops of .340 and a BA of at least .280

The Blue Jays seem to be taking a page from the Leafs playbook. This is only window dressing to make it look good, but it really is a house of cards.
I think it is a decent deal for the Jays. If Johnson and Morrow stay healthy they have essentially 4 number 1 or 2 pitchers. It is hoped that these guys can chew up innings to help cover up a relatively weak bullpen.

The infield gets better. They pick up some speed, which will increase stolen bases probably by a +15 margin this year.

It is definitely a solid deal for the Jays, but by no means makes them more than a real contender for a playoff spot.

The AL East is still the hardest division in baseball. Boston and NY are gonna spend money this year. Tampa is still strong. Baltimore had a good season last year and will be interesting to see if it was a fluke or if they are back as a contender again.
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signed melky Cabrera
costanza;338921 wrotesigned melky Cabrera
Awesome. Just what we need. A pill popper. :(
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he gets 8M a season too ...

holy fuck we are gonna be legit this year lol
I'd prefer if we got the other Cabrera.

JohnnieH;338658 wroteI hate seeing pitching prospects Anthony Desclafani and Justin Nicolino go, but we need help in the rotation next season. Jose Reyes is a stud that helps our lineup. If we can stay healthy, we should contend next year.
No guarantee in them being johnson/buerhle caliber. Plus theyre stuck behind drabek Hutchinson and syndegaard in the depth chart anyways.
Hobbes;338922 wroteAwesome. Just what we need. A pill popper. :(
I don't care what he popped in the past. 8 mil for a legit .300 hitting corner OF with a bit of pop and speed is AWESOME.

If only the Jays had kept Napoli from the Wells trade 2 years ago or had added Fielder last year. Lind has got to go.
Hobbes;338922 wroteAwesome. Just what we need. A pill popper. :(

[] want Melky to contribute to offense
[x] want Melky to distract drug testers from hassling Bautista
moose;338927 wrote[] [x] want Melky to distract drug testers from hassling Bautista

16Million for a decoy?
I'm nervous about Melky's performance next season. Usually guys coming off PEDs have a huge downswing afterwards. Fingers crossed.

Also, WHEN THE FUCK is Selig going to sign off on the Marlins trade?!
JohnnieH;338930 wrote
Also, WHEN THE FUCK is Selig going to sign off on the Marlins trade?!
He's waiting to see how much NY and Boston are going to pay him to nix it. :D
Hobbes;338934 wroteHe's waiting to see how much NY and Boston are going to pay him to nix it. :D
I'm *this close* to drawing a Blue Jays logo on a tinfoil hat right now....
I am actually "this close" to becoming a baseball fan again . . .