Are they in the US? I just tried on Tilt again, no issue...ez2cy;264205 wroteWon't let me connect. Reading on 2+2 (I can lurk) and a lot are saying they can't make the connection. Oh well only 500 bucks plus
Hope this aint true, Online poker being shut down?
No idea....just know I can't access anything but the games themselves. Try to click on "my promo' or deposit, withdraw..get the "can't connect"compuease;264207 wroteAre they in the US? I just tried on Tilt again, no issue...
Thanks yoda...new keyboard needed!:Ddarbday;264198 wrote
I would be willing to bet processors all over are having a hard time keeping up with the masses cashing out...hence some problems are inevitable.
^^^ This...DennisG;264213 wroteI would be willing to bet processors all over are having a hard time keeping up with the masses cashing out...hence some problems are inevitable.
I am getting the same error message when I click on the "withdrawl button".
Really? No problem here in Milton.. Is Hamilton now part of the US?djgolfcan;264218 wroteI am getting the same error message when I click on the "withdrawl button".
Quoted from P5's
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This has been quite an afternoon for the online poker industry. The U.S. Department of Justice has seized the domain names belonging to PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, UB.com, and Absolute Poker. When visiting the latter two, a message that read, “This domain name has been seized by the FBI pursuant to an arrest warrant in rem obtained by the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York and issued by the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.”
The founders of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, and Absolute Poker were all charged in the action. They include Isai Scheinberg and Paul Tate of PokerStars, Ray Bitar and Nelson Burtnick of Full Tilt Poker, and Scott Tom and Brent Beckley of Absolute Poker. According to a statement released by the U.S. Department of Justice, law enforcement agencies and Interpol were in pursuit of the individuals in question.
PokerStars has officially left the U.S. market, although a refresh of its website around 4:30pm ET loaded it normally. Full Tilt Poker has not released any comment as to its future, but UB.com and Absolute Poker appear likely to stay, sources close to PocketFives.com reveal.
The charges against the site’s founders include bank fraud, money laundering, and illegal gambling offenses. Each carries a penalty of up to five years behind bars and up to $250,000 in fines.
PocketFives.com was bustling with activity throughout the afternoon, mainly in a thread in the Poker Sites forum. Several posters reported seeing error messages like, “We’re sorry, but due to government regulations, playing real money tournaments/ring games is not allowed in your area” and so headed to the forums to check for the latest.
A total of 75 bank accounts were also seized this afternoon and, as we tick closer and closer to the weekend, the Sunday Majors seem to be in doubt.
Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara commented in the same Department of Justice press release, "As charged, these defendants concocted an elaborate criminal fraud scheme, alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in illegal gambling profits.”
Bharara continued, “Moreover, as we allege, in their zeal to circumvent the gambling laws, the defendants also engaged in massive money laundering and bank fraud. Foreign firms that choose to operate in the United States are not free to flout the laws they don’t like simply because they can’t bear to be parted from their profits."
An e-mail and phone call placed to John Pappas of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA) yielded a response of, “Statement coming.”
A Business Insider article revealed that indicted payment processor Daniel Tzvetkoff may be behind today’s rash of seizures. The article succinctly explains, “After a ‘secret’ meeting with prosecutors, he was suddenly out on bail. And now, his former colleagues are the ones facing serious jail time. Daniel Tzvetkoff knows the operations of these poker sites inside and out. He's the one man positioned to give these companies to the U.S. Attorneys on a silver platter. And it looks like that's exactly what he did, cooperating with the authorities to avoid his own lengthy jail sentence.”
The U.S. Department of Justice statement adds that the money destined for the various online poker sites in question was “disguised as payments to hundreds of non-existent online merchants purporting to sell merchandise such as jewelry and golf balls.”
*****************************************************
This has been quite an afternoon for the online poker industry. The U.S. Department of Justice has seized the domain names belonging to PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, UB.com, and Absolute Poker. When visiting the latter two, a message that read, “This domain name has been seized by the FBI pursuant to an arrest warrant in rem obtained by the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York and issued by the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.”
The founders of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, and Absolute Poker were all charged in the action. They include Isai Scheinberg and Paul Tate of PokerStars, Ray Bitar and Nelson Burtnick of Full Tilt Poker, and Scott Tom and Brent Beckley of Absolute Poker. According to a statement released by the U.S. Department of Justice, law enforcement agencies and Interpol were in pursuit of the individuals in question.
PokerStars has officially left the U.S. market, although a refresh of its website around 4:30pm ET loaded it normally. Full Tilt Poker has not released any comment as to its future, but UB.com and Absolute Poker appear likely to stay, sources close to PocketFives.com reveal.
The charges against the site’s founders include bank fraud, money laundering, and illegal gambling offenses. Each carries a penalty of up to five years behind bars and up to $250,000 in fines.
PocketFives.com was bustling with activity throughout the afternoon, mainly in a thread in the Poker Sites forum. Several posters reported seeing error messages like, “We’re sorry, but due to government regulations, playing real money tournaments/ring games is not allowed in your area” and so headed to the forums to check for the latest.
A total of 75 bank accounts were also seized this afternoon and, as we tick closer and closer to the weekend, the Sunday Majors seem to be in doubt.
Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara commented in the same Department of Justice press release, "As charged, these defendants concocted an elaborate criminal fraud scheme, alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in illegal gambling profits.”
Bharara continued, “Moreover, as we allege, in their zeal to circumvent the gambling laws, the defendants also engaged in massive money laundering and bank fraud. Foreign firms that choose to operate in the United States are not free to flout the laws they don’t like simply because they can’t bear to be parted from their profits."
An e-mail and phone call placed to John Pappas of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA) yielded a response of, “Statement coming.”
A Business Insider article revealed that indicted payment processor Daniel Tzvetkoff may be behind today’s rash of seizures. The article succinctly explains, “After a ‘secret’ meeting with prosecutors, he was suddenly out on bail. And now, his former colleagues are the ones facing serious jail time. Daniel Tzvetkoff knows the operations of these poker sites inside and out. He's the one man positioned to give these companies to the U.S. Attorneys on a silver platter. And it looks like that's exactly what he did, cooperating with the authorities to avoid his own lengthy jail sentence.”
The U.S. Department of Justice statement adds that the money destined for the various online poker sites in question was “disguised as payments to hundreds of non-existent online merchants purporting to sell merchandise such as jewelry and golf balls.”
So you're gonna live on cat food then? :Dcompuease;264206 wroteI am quite sure this is all histeria, but what the hell, I'm not being the last one out the door.... This is my retirement we're talking about here...
People in parts of Canada are having trouble both playing and cashing out.
They can get other countries to seize accounts . Proceeds of Crime. They have agreements in place with all of these countries to do this.
FBI's reach is a lot longer than most people think.
They did it with the Hussein Regime in Iraq and just did it with Khadaffi Duck in Libya.
Yanks still playing on Tilt.
My 2 cents. Us Govt is way deep in debt. Pretty Much Broke, Why not go after the Online poker industry. Makes sense.
The wire and Bank Fraud + Money laundering charges span across the globe.
The Doomswitch has been activated....
They can get other countries to seize accounts . Proceeds of Crime. They have agreements in place with all of these countries to do this.
FBI's reach is a lot longer than most people think.
They did it with the Hussein Regime in Iraq and just did it with Khadaffi Duck in Libya.
Yanks still playing on Tilt.
My 2 cents. Us Govt is way deep in debt. Pretty Much Broke, Why not go after the Online poker industry. Makes sense.
The wire and Bank Fraud + Money laundering charges span across the globe.
The Doomswitch has been activated....
Can anyone cashout on FTP this minute via moneybookers?
I just tried both stars and full tilt, both are working fine for me.
I did my withdrawal last night(something was telling me to do it right away, I kid you not!:o).
But I can get the withdrawal screens to come up with no problems, once you hit the withdrawal button to process may be a different story, I don't know.
I did my withdrawal last night(something was telling me to do it right away, I kid you not!:o).
But I can get the withdrawal screens to come up with no problems, once you hit the withdrawal button to process may be a different story, I don't know.
What are you using to withdraw? Just asking because as far as I know moneybookers is the only automated option where you legit get your funds when it gets processed. 2 of mine are stuck processing since 3PM though after a small one went through.
nothing about shutting down operations to the rest of the free world...PokerStars has officially left the U.S. market
While there are a bunch of accounts seized...likely they aren't the overseas/reserve accounts in which the majority of monies are held in "trust". Anything that has come back into the US would likely be another story...as well as any and all personal accounts.
these are just my hopes as I take down the 50k tonight..lol
Vekked;264236 wroteWhat are you using to withdraw? Just asking because as far as I know moneybookers is the only automated option where you legit get your funds when it gets processed. 2 of mine are stuck processing since 3PM though after a small one went through.
I used instadebit, my funds were in my instadebit account instantly.
Again...the processors are very likely overloaded and very slow..Vekked;264236 wroteWhat are you using to withdraw? Just asking because as far as I know moneybookers is the only automated option where you legit get your funds when it gets processed. 2 of mine are stuck processing since 3PM though after a small one went through.
You can get the FT withdrawl screen to come up. but when you click on withdraw funds, it says it can't connect.
Pstars let me withdraw but I first deposited well before Moneybookers and have never done it since, so whenever I cash out I just get a cheque mailed out to me. I asked for one, but I am pretty unsure about wether I'll ever see that cheque, or wether it will still be good when I try to deposit it if I DO get it.
Man, I hope all this is not do-able by the US gvnmt. I hope all those poker execs are laughing and that they have things in place to protect their business and our money in this type of situation.
That guy ratting to stay out of jail can't be good though...
Pstars let me withdraw but I first deposited well before Moneybookers and have never done it since, so whenever I cash out I just get a cheque mailed out to me. I asked for one, but I am pretty unsure about wether I'll ever see that cheque, or wether it will still be good when I try to deposit it if I DO get it.
Man, I hope all this is not do-able by the US gvnmt. I hope all those poker execs are laughing and that they have things in place to protect their business and our money in this type of situation.
That guy ratting to stay out of jail can't be good though...
The withdrawl button started working again. Now to see if I actually get the money.
Sigh, just went to try instadebit and I get the can't connect screen now as well.
Lmk how it goesdjgolfcan;264241 wroteThe withdrawl button started working again. Now to see if I actually get the money.