How can I avoid this?

syphilaids

Richard~;208335 wroteSeriously though, as people have said this is a pretty standard shove. If he calls 20 percent which is a lot you still have 45% equity against his range which you more than make up for during the 80% that he folds

How you get 45%?

westside8

syphilaids;208445 wroteHow you get 45%?

Pokerstove.

Anyone like or hate 7K pf...psb on flop?

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7k....shouldn't you just shove pre-flop then or are you looking trap him into shoving back? seems kinda mean

MidnightMike

your the low stack, less than 11bb's with a pp, my chips would be in the middle in about .00002 nanoseconds. Make them seriously think if a picture card is good enough to play with. Most times you will find their answer is no. Unless you let them in cheap enough to fish around.

Pinhead

westside8;208446 wrotePokerstove.

Anyone like or hate 7K pf...psb on flop?

In a tourney with some kind of play left I might advocate something less than a shove (especially when there are people willing to give away 25% of your stack just to try to miss the flop with rags), but with M=7 and 15 minute blinds jam your gold in and practice your flipping skills.

Edit: You're in SB? Break wrists jamming gold and then cry when you still lose to K4

Tilter

Go all-in preflop. You got 22K (11 BB), raising 6K and leaving yourself 16K when the flop will not be 234 or 5xx 90%+ of the time and you're left puzzled about how to act.

And for the people who want the math breakdown on how this is profitable. BTW shoving any two cards from SB with 11BB is profitable, but that is a secret you have to learn yourself.

SB shoves 22K
BB calls with top 20% of his range.

Option 1: SB Folds -1K

Assuming you're playing on a decent site like Pokerstars where Antes are 200 @ 1/2K blinds

Antes = 7 x 200 = 1400 chips

Option 2: You shove for 22K
80% of the time, BB folds and you win his 2000 + 1400 in antes for +3400
20% of the time BB calls (66+,A4s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo) <--which imo is very inaccurate, but you guys wanted 20%

55 will win 45.78% and lose 54.219%
EV of shove = [BB Folds] + [SB Wins All-In] - [SB Loses All-in]
= [0.80 * 3400] + [0.20 * .4578 * 45400] - [0.20 * 0.54219 * 45400]
= 2720 + 4156 - 4923 = 1953

Option 2 - Option 1 = 1954 - [-1000] = +2954

Open shoving nets you 1.5 BB

Poker is a game of volume + variance, and any edge you get, you should take.

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