Pitbull Poker Makes Suspicious 'Midnight Move'

STR82ACE

Right on the heels of the Ulimate Bet and Absolute Poker scandals, it appears that another online site, Pitbull Poker, is trying to hide something.

Pitbull Poker Makes Suspicious ‘Midnight Move’

The full thread can be viewed on 2+2 here

I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! - Internet Poker - Online Poker Forum

As of this morning, there is zero traffic on the site, and any attempt at cashing out will most likely end in frustration.

SuitedPair

bastards.

One lucky thing about playing on a Mac, FTP and Stars are the only option so I don't get sucked into these lower tier sites.

LanterneRouge

SuitedPair;198646 wrotebastards.

One lucky thing about playing on a Mac, FTP and Stars are the only option so I don't get sucked into these lower tier sites.

Pitbull was Flash based - meaning you could play on their site using any computer (PC or Mac) without installing a poker client. Convenient? Certainly - at least at times. But it sure as hell also sounds like an inherent security problem to me. I would never assume card data was secure on such a site and would, therefore, never deposit a penny of my own money with them.

I've been following that thread on 2+2 for several weeks now. Recommended reading for all - if you have a couple hours to spare.

If Pitbull wasn't such a tiny joke of a site (50 players on at any one time - most of them shills), I would have posted a warning here long ago. I just figured there was a <0.01% chance anyone here would bother with them.

Richard~

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Zack .: Hello, Bryan! Welcome to Live Customer Support! How may I be of your assistance?
Bryan: Hi Zack, I was wondering if you could provide me any info on the pitbull gaming license
Zack .: for which web site?
Zack .: Poker or Casino?
Bryan: pitbull poker
Zack .: please hold on
The agent is sending you to https://www.pitbullpoker.com/poker/index.jsp.
Zack .: click on that link please
Zack .: there you will be able to read our certification
Zack .: Is there anything else I can assist you with at this time?
Bryan: where on the page will i find it?
Bryan: that is just my account home page
Zack .: under About Us
Zack .: you will need to select the Security & Fairness link from the drop down menu
Bryan: OK I am looking at that, but I don't see anything about a license.
Zack .: please try to read the entire page
Zack .: Our seed is a 64-bit number ensuring all 4 billion possible deck combinations and we also use values from the server's system resources, the system clock, and the hand number to ensure a purely random seed for each shuffle. PitbullPoker has had its shuffling algorithm independently tested by iTech Labs.
Bryan: I did, it talks about encryption, account security, and shuffling/rng stuff
Bryan: That is not a gaming license, that is simply an audit of your RNG.
Zack .: we don't require a License since we are not part of any independent firm gaming authorities
Zack .: RNG supports our games
Zack .: and we can prove it to you
Zack .: as you may noticed
Bryan: Yes but you must be legally licensed somewhere to run a gaming enterprise?
Bryan: Pitbull poker is in the UK right?
Zack .: our business is based in UK and its jurisdiction
Bryan: so do you have a UK gaming license?
Zack .: if that's what you are trying to find out
Bryan: Yes i am interested in where you hold your gaming license and what regulatory body you fall under.
Zack .: UK
Bryan: So you have a UK gaming license?
Zack .: any legal problems will be handle under UK laws
Zack .: if necessary
Zack .: if you have any further questions please send them via email
Bryan: Do you hold an actual gaming license?
Zack .: let me try to put this clear for you
Zack .: this is one of the points for our Terms & Conditions 9. GOVERNING LAW The Agreement and any matters relating hereto shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with the laws of the United Kingdom. Each party irrevocably agrees that the relevant courts of the United Kingdom shall have exclusive jurisdiction in relation to any claim, dispute or difference concerning the Agreement and any matter arising there from and irrevocably waives any right that it may have to object to an action being brought in those courts, or to claim that the action has been brought in an inconvenient forum, or that those courts do not have jurisdiction.
Bryan: If you really want to be clear you could answer yes or no, as it is a pretty straighfoward factual question with no room for judgement or anything. \
Zack .: We assumed that every customer take the time to read our End User License
Zack .: I was trying to explain this point on a better way for you
Bryan: I have read it and I understand all disputes would be handled in the UK, but I was just curious if you hold a gaming license or not.
Zack .: UK has flexible laws for On Line Gaming
Bryan: OK I guess I know what that means then. Thanks for your help.
Zack .: if at certain point you needed to approach this to anyone
Zack .: you know where to do it
Zack .: and to what authorities
Zack .: Is there anything else I can assist you with at this time?
Bryan: No, have a great night. Thank you.
Zack .: Thank you for contacting our Customer Support! Should you have any questions or comments please do not hesitate to contact us anytime, we are here 24/7!

Dave no need to answer that last question lol. I wonder if the UK knows it has such flexible gaming laws!

This cracked me up ^^'

Graham

There are a ton of super shady sites out there, its a fact of this industry. Hence why you should always do lots of research into a company before signing up with them. Every site listed here is either UK licensed or has been around for ages with zero issues.