are you okay with this.....

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Richard~;196247 wroteAs I read it it's BvB, OP said villain was stealing blinds in the wrong way, right? And I don't think you have to take minor money jumps into account here. Besides, if you don't take him now someone else might steal your fish.

and well...closing mode, bla bla, long term profit, bla bla, major implied odds in the new stack, bla bla, use your edge on his range etc

Visit pokerpwnage for details on how to get it in when you're ahead of his range -> laugh when you get crushed by Q10 -> Get deep in a new tourney -> get crushed -> repeat. In the end you'll hopefully hold one time ^^'

(I lost a 2900 dollar three way pot live yesterday against 96o that turned a straight when my money was already in pot. it sucks to be beat but remember that you're playing to make the right decisions, not to win)

Edit: seems I misunderstood to, did he actually UTG shove that huge stack?

i don't know if i should quote all these to reply but anyways....what does his position matter? he taking any excuse to go all in. he thinks he's gus hanson but instead off calculated blind steals he thinks your supposed to go all in and take your lumps vs. steal. And again i'm sure i can make top 10, but i can get at least 50/50 to make top 3

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actyper;196254 wroteYeah I'm retarded read too fast and didn't notice that he had 150k, only saw the second part where it said something about the villain shoving 150k. I don't think this hand was retold correctly as the average stack in a party poker 10k rebuy tourney itm is not 75bbs. As is calling off 75bbs with AJ is just spewy

I'm not looking for the exact number just the general concept of the call or fold. But we had 150,000 and there were 2 guys at 300,000. my whole table had no where near me and him in chips. I didn't look at the whole roster of people chips so much, i just knew it would catapault me into basically tied (3way) for the lead, and we would be at least double the rest. I don't know what itm is but if 150000 sounds like alot remember its a rebuy. And your last sentence just took the entire decision out of context. I'm gonna place top 10, but im getting better than 50/50 to make 3rd or better?

Wetts1012

Post Hand History.

Otherwise this is a huge what if fail thread.

I +1 Actyper either way.

This is either a snapfold or a snapcall - depending on what actually happened.

actyper

Take your hand history and post it. 38 players left, already in the money, blinds at 1000/2000? Thats like level 10ish, way too early to be in the money. What your position is with 38 players left does not reflect your finish position, still tons of poker left especially with the structure that you wrote.

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Wetts1012;196259 wrotePost Hand History.

Otherwise this is a huge what if fail thread.

I +1 Actyper either way.

This is either a snapfold or a snapcall - depending on what actually happened.

apologies for creatinga what if situation....how do i get hand histories? poker tracker 3?

Wetts1012

darbday;196262 wroteapologies for creatinga what if situation....how do i get hand histories? poker tracker 3?

If you have PT3 it'll be in the database.

If you dont I assume Party has a saving function in the software.

DennisG

I'm gonna place top 10, but im getting better than 50/50 to make 3rd or better?

Here is the fail. You aren't gonna make top ten if you lose the race. You are going home.

As you said, you had nothing invested, no need to make the call other than showing him who's boss. Your read is sound, so a call is ok here in those regards. But, given all the other circumstances (the way I read them now) there is just no need.

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actyper;196261 wroteTake your hand history and post it. 38 players left, already in the money, blinds at 1000/2000? Thats like level 10ish, way too early to be in the money. What your position is with 38 players left does not reflect your finish position, still tons of poker left especially with the structure that you wrote.

40th place was the money bubble. and to be in 3rd with 38 players left with an ultra stack, definetly makes me confident i can place top 3. I was already so high i would have been in aggresive calculated blind steal mode, but this guy was taking that away from me doing his donk all in steals. bascally with him out and me doubling up, it would be quite some time before more than a couple players could even have a shot at half my stack. I feel im a strong player and at 150k was likely to rise to top ten with at least a middle stack, but again a 50/50 on a random hand (and likely better) at making top 3. I realize there is more poker to be played, but i can get into an ultra high stack at this point, i don't think i can be beat until the final three. thanx

Wetts1012

darbday;196265 wrote40th place was the money bubble. and to be in 3rd with 38 players left with an ultra stack, definetly makes me confident i can place top 3. I was already so high i would have been in aggresive calculated blind steal mode, but this guy was taking that away from me doing his donk all in steals. bascally with him out and me doubling up, it would be quite some time before more than a couple players could even have a shot at half my stack. I feel im a strong player and at 150k was likely to rise to top ten with at least a middle stack, but again a 50/50 on a random hand (and likely better) at making top 3. I realize there is more poker to be played, but i can get into an ultra high stack at this point, i don't think i can be beat until the final three. thanx

Youve obv. never been chipleader on the FT bubble only to spew it all away and not make the FT.

Besides the point - but its not something I would try defending if I were you. Chipleader (even by a very large amount) with 40 left does not even come close to guaranteeing a top 3 finish.

Now back on track. Post HH Plz.

DennisG

Wetts1012;196266 wroteYouve obv. never been chipleader on the FT bubble only to spew it all away and not make the FT.

Have you been watching me play?

Besides the point - but its not something I would try defending if I were you. Chipleader (even by a very large amount) with 40 left does not even come close to guaranteeing a top 3 finish.

Now back on track. Post HH Plz.

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Ihaveyourname;196264 wroteHere is the fail. You aren't gonna make top ten if you lose the race. You are going home.

As you said, you had nothing invested, no need to make the call other than showing him who's boss. Your read is sound, so a call is ok here in those regards. But, given all the other circumstances (the way I read them now) there is just no need.

I always lay this down, in any other time where i think i can double up for 50/50. but this time the way thing are, i strongly feel doubling up will make me 2k. And I have a strong thought that this guy saw a weak ace and went all in. I'm not arguing just exlporing, but im confident that this is 50/50 at worst for about $2k. but at the stack i have im likely to make better than 10th anyways.

thanks all, ive learnt from the thread alone already

BlondeFish

To be honest, that's what I was thinking too as there was no way I could answer the original post with the incomplete information given and no hand history. With the additional (but confusing) information given since, GIVEN THE VILLAIN'S RANGE, it is not only highly +cEV but also +$EV to call. I love making these higher-variance but profit-maximizing plays against lagtards like the villain, and the weak-tight who give up huge equity by folding too much on the mistaken assumption that they have a huge skills edge against everybody else and can afford to wait for other such highly +$EV opportunities with less risk.

actyper;196243 wroteTo be honest, everybody in this thread that made a decision failed. OP did not mention a huge factor in the decision making of this hand.

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