Push / Fold Poker

Graham

After seeing the thread about Boku87 and watching him play a bit, it got me thinking. Can you make a good amount of cash playing push/fold poker on these 18 and 45 man sit n gos? It seems quite easy and though it isn't as fun as actually playing, it seems you have pretty good chances to cash and make a decent amount of money. Is anyone playing like this? How have you found it? I tried last night with a 3 of these on FTP last night and went late in 2 and came 3rd in the other, totalling a profit of about $60 for an hours work. These were at the $10 level. The players in these seem pretty awful, playing all sorts of junk. If you sit back and wait for big hands (AA / KK / QQ etc.) preflop, you seem to get paid off everytime. Any thoughts on this strategy?

westside8

I've been grinding 18 players turbo..definitely money to be made but variance can be huge.

blackmagicz

I play the 18 man turbos (usually the 16.00 and unders...)

I find that you need to really overbet your hands to build up enough chips to survive the collisions at the final table where it really becomes push fold.

I wouldn't be surprised if this method was profitable but you wouldn't be winning them you would just be cashing which makes it more difficult to get a ROI.

Graham

It seems the 45 man ones are a bit better as the prizepool is higher and more paid positions... have you guys tried those?

westside8

Graham;178984 wroteIt seems the 45 man ones are a bit better as the prizepool is higher and more paid positions... have you guys tried those?

Even higher variance though.

BBC Z

There are lower variance solutions out there.

They're called jobs.

westside8

BBC Z;178995 wroteThere are lower variance solutions out there.

They're called jobs.

Stuck at one right now...

BlondeFish

I've been playing the 50-player (not 50-man, you sexist pig! ;) ) SNGs at PartyPoker because of the double points promotion until March 8. 7/50 or 14% get paid, which is not as good as a 3/9 SNG. 50 starting big blinds and a Skill Level of 0 might not be too bad for a one-table SNG, but it's a crapshoot with five tables. The worst is the $2.4+$0.60 speed SNG, with five minute blinds and a virtually unbeatable rake of 20%.

The one I like the most is the $10+$1 with 10-minute blinds and 9% rake. With the double points, my effective rakeback is at least 27%. Unfortunately, it takes hours for the mult-table SNGs to fill up, so sometimes I am deep in several tournaments when another table pops up unexpectedly for the SNG and it gets too hectic. I've only cashed once in these multi-table SNG crapshoots so that must mean that I'm an SNG donkey. :-[

If the rake is low enough, it is possible for an SNG shark who has memorized the Jam-or-Fold tables or Nash Equilibria strategies to have a decent hourly win rate with multi-tabling turbo crapshoots, but I much prefer higher Skill Level tournaments where I can maximize the net profit per game.

Graham;178984 wroteIt seems the 45 man ones are a bit better as the prizepool is higher and more paid positions... have you guys tried those?

P.S. A 50-player $5+$1 SNG (17% rake) just popped up, so it's time to push or fold.
Edit: I can't even make it to the top 45 as my KK gets cracked. :fish: