Graham Anyone have any expert analysis on this hand? I know I prob should have folded JJ preflop when villain made that raise with 2x my stack. Any thoughts, or just unlucky? PokerStars Game #15770198342: Tournament #79267300, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1000/2000) - 2008/03/05 - 21:45:22 (ET) Table '79267300 158' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: AApro (35202 in chips) Seat 2: kal-el702 (12906 in chips) Seat 3: XbonezX (15275 in chips) Seat 4: DJ26149 (167770 in chips) Seat 5: guitmatt (57233 in chips) Seat 6: Tens1orBette (32584 in chips) Seat 7: closemaster (62218 in chips) Seat 8: ShdowWalker1 (60611 in chips) Seat 9: flakis (51576 in chips) AApro: posts the ante 200 kal-el702: posts the ante 200 XbonezX: posts the ante 200 DJ26149: posts the ante 200 guitmatt: posts the ante 200 Tens1orBette: posts the ante 200 closemaster: posts the ante 200 ShdowWalker1: posts the ante 200 flakis: posts the ante 200 flakis: posts small blind 1000 AApro: posts big blind 2000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to closemaster [Jh Js] kal-el702: folds XbonezX: folds DJ26149: raises 4000 to 6000 guitmatt: folds Tens1orBette: folds closemaster: calls 6000 ShdowWalker1: folds flakis: folds AApro: folds *** FLOP *** [5h 5s Th] DJ26149: bets 20000 closemaster: raises 36018 to 56018 and is all-in DJ26149: calls 36018 *** TURN *** [5h 5s Th] [Qd] *** RIVER *** [5h 5s Th Qd] [Ad] *** SHOW DOWN *** DJ26149: shows [Ks Kh] (two pair, Kings and Fives) closemaster: shows [Jh Js] (two pair, Jacks and Fives) ShdowWalker1 said, "vnh" DJ26149 collected 128836 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 128836 | Rake 0 Board [5h 5s Th Qd Ad] Seat 1: AApro (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: kal-el702 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: XbonezX folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: DJ26149 showed [Ks Kh] and won (128836) with two pair, Kings and Fives Seat 5: guitmatt folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Tens1orBette folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: closemaster showed [Jh Js] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Fives Seat 8: ShdowWalker1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: flakis (small blind) folded before Flop
westside8 Graham;141856 wrote reraise pre-flop QFT..and fold to a push. I guess if he flat calls, money is going in anyways in the flop..but..
STR82ACE Free advise Lesson #1: There is no right way to play JJ Free advise Lesson #2: There is no wrong way to play JJ I hate JJ...strong enough to play, but can so easily beaten. Your particular hand...reraise preflop...if he comes over the top, fold. If he smooth calls you, I would lead out on the flop. If he were to raise me here on that board I would definitely consider mucking. Only way not to get beat here is if he had you on pocket 10's.
Voodoo Graham;141856 wroteI am thinking next time I should reraise pre-flop to test his hand's strength. ^ What he said.
st0neC0ldNutz I suppose you could have re-raised pre - but if he shoves you, are you going to fold your JJ? That is really the only question. If he flats your re-pop - you are getting in all in on that flop. And even with the way you played it, most of us are getting our money in on that flop. You just can't go around thinking people have AA and KK every time you have JJ. I don't see any major mistakes in how you played it, and I would guess the vast majority of ppl would go broke here. Unless you had a massive read on the KK player its just v.hard to get away from this situation.
The_Awesome Treat JJ like 22. Raise out with it preflop if you can do so without committing yourself but fold to strength.
-ev LOL. I thought the title was a reference to the banning/censoring stuff. But JJ? No, don't ever play JJ passively unless you are up against a compete donkey. And even then, don't.
Kristy Why did you flat call? And if it is because the guy was playing super-tight...why did you shove? (Sincere questions so we can give you feedback ..what you've done is justifiable, but insight into your plan for this hand will help)