@moose if you had a 500 chip case what would you put it for a 25NL game

I know when I play, either tournament or cash, I always liked more physical chips. Not that I often got to that point but you know what I mean.

Hey..

Let me start by saying I really had a great time, and it was a nice mid week game to attend.

As for feedback, you said you were intending to get new blood / players enticed out to play and learn... Everyone at that table was a regular enough player, and some of them were in for over 100-200 dollars. I dont know that this is going to elicit new folks spending 200 bucks on something I know they're not good at.

I like the game and would play again. But if you want new players to come play for cheap, you'd need to go 0.05/0.10 blinds with a 20 dollar buy in. That's 200bb vs 100 bb we were playing. That way I have to bust out 5 times to get to 100. Then you'll have to hope people adhere to reasonable raises based on blinds / pots, and not the actual value.

Again... Good game and I'd play again, but I don't know how much new blood the current setup will get.

Mark

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Starting stacks 8 quarters, 18 $1, 1 $5. Keep giving out 8/18/1 until there are 100 quarters and 200 $1 in play. Then just $5s.

In a 500 set I would go for 25nl
100 .25
200 $1
200 $5 and then let $20s play (cash).

You want to keep it small then don't up the buyins. Half the biggest stack just means the buyin keeps escalating all night. If someone doesn't like it, the answer is "play better".

But the correct answer is you need more chips for a cash set than you need for tournaments. Ideally at least 800. When you have only a few chips in front of you, even if they are high denom, you feel short stacked and there will be more rebuys. Also you will be making change more often, slowing down the game and if everyone has lots of change then you avoid the interminable questions everytime someone uses an oversize chip "is that a call or raise?".

Also don't put $50s in play. Each denom should be a ratio of 4-5 times higher than the previous. No casino has $50s.

    moose A good point was made that someone might have 600BB and only allowing 100BB rebuy give them no option to compete and are pushed around or to make their money back

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      Play better.

      Everybody starts even. It is the nature of a cash game that there are winners and losers. Why is it the other players/hosts responsibility to relevel the playing field? How is it fair to the player who built their stack to have their advantage taken away? Sucks to be a loser.

      Play better.

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      Haha good point..

      My viewpoint is a little different, if you host a game and advertise it as 25NL then stick to 25NL. Players who sign up know the stakes are and are within their comfort range. Nothing pisses off players more than changes to game stakes or games being offered throughout the night that they were unaware prior to signing up.

      If your offering 25NL to start but are going to offer 50NL later or half the biggest stack, make that very clear that is your intentions, so that players know what they are signing up for.

      Neither sticking to 25NL or upping stakes later is wrong "it's not about Playing Better", just be clear your intentions and as a HOST it is your responsibility to stick to it or your game will DIE.

      Don't let someone who is not afraid to voice there viewpoint about game selection in the middle of the night, ruin the experience during the night.

      Awesome great advice @woog30 .. and it can be very difficult in the middle of the game to say now you can buy&in for half Stack and of course the big stack who's winning is going to say okay because its the rest of the table against them.. puts them in a hard spot to say no.. so I agree whatever it is to start with is where should end with!