crazy pineapple hand

[Meistro]

Playing .25/.50 Dealer's choice on a Pineapple hand. I believe it is a mass multiway single raised pot. Possibly limped. Flop is Q109 all hearts. Villian #1 leads, gets flatted by Villian #2, and Villian #3 comes over the top. Flop bet is either $3 or $4, and presumably pot sized. Could have been straddled or not pre. These details are fairly irrelevant.

Stack sizes are deep. I'm not sure exactly how deep. Let's say 150 BB effective, or $75. Villian #1 is a nit. Actually I have great insight into his game, because he is a student of mine. He has SOME online background, plays a very tight style (probably close to 18/12, if I had to guess, at a full ring game).

Villian #2 is a relatively loose player - relative specifically to the two players in the hand. He is not afraid to gamble it up pre, taking flops, calling three bets, if there is a lot more money to be won after the flop. For the game we were playing in, this style may even be more optimal than the nitty style of Villian 1, although I suspect it is not. His main strength is probably hand reading; because of his looser style he finds himself in trickier spots post flop, but this can be an advantage as well as a disadvantage.

Villian #3 is what I would call a 'bi polar' player. That is to say sometimes he plays extremely tight / passive, and other times, when stuck or on tilt, plays a bit more loose and splashy. Like the players he is a serious and analytic player, just slightly lacking in emotional control (no offence bro! I criticize only because I feel criticism is the most important use of language and it would be a dereliction of friendship not to do so). He has been crushing this session and brought his A game to play, as well as experiencing some positive flux.

Crazy pineapple means you discard after the flop.` This changes things There were probably 5-6 players to the flop, so I suspect it was a limped pot non straddled.

You are viillian 1. Your hand is 1010. Action is on you, $20 to call. You have approximately $70 on top of the raise (this figure is the accurate one, double checked with villian in this hand, ignore effective stacks listed above).

[Richard~]

we have a pretty bad draw here, should be an easy fold? Seems like a bad lead as well unless we have a plan

The other two players might already have QQ, the only things we want them to have are two flushes or a straight and a flush and think it's enough to get stacks in

[JohnnieH]

Snap fold. Given the action, mid set is most likely not good.

[compuease]

Pineapple? Snap fold... And this is best played in a casino setting... Ah the memories of Friday nights at Seneca.....

[T8urmoney]

we have a pretty bad draw here, should be an easy fold? Seems like a bad lead as well unless we have a plan

The other two players might already have QQ, the only things we want them to have are two flushes or a straight and a flush and think it's enough to get stacks in

Pretty much this........there is no way our hand is good right now (unless villains are complete newbs to the game).

We would do OK 3-way all-in (over 40%) against a couple of flushes, or straight and flush. But the possibility one of the villains has 99, or Q10 / Q9...or worse case scenario, QQ.......makes it an easy fold on a 3-way all-in.

Easy rule for crazy Pineapple, if you can't raise...........fold.

[Meistro]

You are 35% actually, if you need to improve to win.


Results : Villian #1 folded 1010, V #2 folded KJcc, V #3 had AhQs

[Richard~]

That's the best case scenario to be 35%, if villain is holding AJhh or someone is blocking even one queen this goes down a bit more. Hero shot himself in the foot by leading at this flop

[Meistro]

Once he got raised villain #1 decried his flop lead as stupid. I'm not so sure. You can't assume someone has the flush just because 6 people saw the flop. I do think it was a good fold to the raise, stacking off in a limped in pot here 6 way @ 200 x bb deep would be really bad, esp. for crazy pineapple since chance of flush goes way up. And I think this demonstrates how powerful the semi bluff is. Also I think if we are folding sets and straights, we should also fold 8 high flush and below.

[NicoZach]

Easy rule for crazy Pineapple, if you can't raise...........fold.

Amen to that !

[JimmyHo]

I likely call given all the money still behind and assuming you have a strong feeling V#2 will call as well and not raise.

[OHTNCTRHM]

I just rip and scoop when we get there, Fuck it.