World Cup of Cards - Aug 18 to Sept 14 - Playground Poker Club
Today we're thrilled to announce the 2016 World Cup of Cards, an all-new multi-sponsor, multi-tour poker Festival being held at Playground Poker Club.
We'll post a full text schedule here in the next few days, but for the full schedule, event details, rules, and other information please visit: https://www.playgroundpoker.ca/worldcupofcards2016
Highlights:
We're also still preparing the downloadable PDF Structure sheets for each tournament among other information people appreciate having.
As usual we'll be more than happy to answer any questions you have here on Poker Forum Canada.
We'll post a full text schedule here in the next few days, but for the full schedule, event details, rules, and other information please visit: https://www.playgroundpoker.ca/worldcupofcards2016
Highlights:
- Over $2,000,000 in Guaranteed Prize Pools
- Quantum Tournament with $200,000 GTD
- $500 + $65 WPT National Montreal ($400K GTD)
- $100 + $9 Grand Prix Canada with 8 Live Day 1s and 20 online Day 1s on Partypoker.com ($500K GTD)
- $1,500 + $150 NL Hold'em Card Player Poker Tour event ($400K GTD)
- a $300 + $30 PPC Poker Tour event in which the prize pool will include PPC World Championship Aruba packages
- Around 25% non-Hold'em tournaments among the side events, including PLO, PLO8, 5-Card PLO, Pineapple, Crazy Pineapple, etc.
- And a huge $5,000 + $400 NL Hold'em Freeze...
We're also still preparing the downloadable PDF Structure sheets for each tournament among other information people appreciate having.
As usual we'll be more than happy to answer any questions you have here on Poker Forum Canada.
Comments
Also you should note that this does NOT replace the Main Tour WPT Montreal in November - that's still going to be a fully televised WPT Main Tour stop as it has been for the past few years.
This festival has the WPT National Montreal, but that's a whole different thing. You'll note that it's very similar to another WPT format, just with this unique name.
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With WCC possibly being the longest ever poker festival in Canada at 28 days, here is my master plan for Playground.
- August 17: $500 + $50 GBH Summer Classic with 15K starting chips.
- August 18, 7 pm: WCC Event #1, $145.50 + $24.50 Quantum Day 1a, $200K Gtd, 14.4% rake.
- August 19, 10 am: $523.80 + $76.20 WPT Re-entry Day 1a, $400K Gtd, 12.7% rake.
- August 20: $170 Quantum 1b (7 pm); $600 WPT 1b.
- August 21, 8 pm: $165 + $20 CPPT Satellite Re-entry, 2 Seats Gtd, 10.8% rake; Exporail attraction near Playground (10 am - 6 pm).
- La Ronde on Aug. 18-24 (11 am - 8/9 pm); closed on Aug. 25-26 & Aug. 29 - Sept. 2.
- August 22 & 23: Use Passeport MTL to see all the Montreal attractions with my kid.
- August 24, 7 pm: $170 Quantum 1c.
- August 25, 8 pm: $185 CPPT Satellite Re-entry (was 5 seats Gtd?).
- August 26: stop by any attractions on the drive back to Toronto.
- Carpool to Montreal Airbnb on September 1 by 4 pm to play the Turbo $100 + $9 GPPT, 8.3% rake.
- Sept. 4: $220 Seniors' Tournament ($20K gtd).
- Sept. 5: $170 Quantum ($200K gtd) &/or $330 PPC ($30K gtd).
- Sept. 6-8: Try to win satellites to $5,400 8-Max ($150K gtd) & CPPT.
- Sept. 10: $1,650 CPPT 1a, 11 am ($400K gtd).
- Sept 11: $220 + $25 Re-entry Quantum Mega Satellite, 8 pm, 5 Seats Gtd, 10.2% rake.
- Bring a friend for free to La Ronde between Sept. 3-11.
- Stay while I have Day 2+ to play, hopefully up to Sept. 13/14.
- Write an article about WCC for Casino World Magazine.
- Book Airbnb house to share for October 30 - November.
- Road trip to The Great Escape & Splashwater Kingdom in Lake George, NY by October 29. Try to stop by the best state parks in the US - Watkins Glen or Letchworth.
- October 29, Fallsview Casino: Le Grand Cirque – Adrenaline, 3 pm; arrange carpool.
- Carpool to Montreal by October 30: go to Fright Fest at La Ronde, 11 am - 9 pm.
- WPT Montreal: October 30 up to November 17; bring a friend for free to La Ronde on November 5 or 6.
A bunch of live casino players have already booked accommodations for WCC, starting with the WPT event as early as August 19. The low buy-ins of most of WCC will probably not attract many pros, which is good news for us.
This is the Canadian grand prix event.
I had asked collette to verify but she never did, BF, is it true in fact, ANYONE who makes day 2 of this event is gtd $400 already? Whether qualified for day 2 by online or live.
Also, you can buy into day 2 directly for $1100?
Collete also said it is best stack forward. If I bag 20k and 200k on separate flights the 20k gets removed from play, but do I still get a cash for that stack as it sates on the website anyone who makes day 2 is ITM.
i'm debating on going to montreal but i'd only be able to play the WPT and/or All-Stars as I have to be back for work on sep. 6th.
I messaged you about your other questions so we can discuss/debate them point-by-point to make plans before the August deadline, as Colette, etc. may not know all the details of the first-ever GPPT Canada by then. I'm willing to swap a percentage for the first GPPT Day 1 we each play.
https://www.playgroundpoker.ca/worldcupofcards2016?utm_source=PG&utm_medium=events-badge&utm_content=en&utm_campaign=WCC16
The $400 was in the Quantum.
It says nothing about $400 for the Grand Prix, although it does say that everyone in the GP day 2 is ITM.
Although that seems odd because you can apparently buy directly into day 2 for $1100
Not sure how 10% of the field on a $109 day 1 makes it to day 2 but you can buyin directly to day 2 for $1100 yet also be ITM. Best value then would be to just buy into day 2 and receive a discount on your $1100 direct buyin for being ITM. It makes no sense.
So anyone who makes day 2 is ITM. We just don't know the exact amount.
My biggest concern, is, it being biggest stack forward, will I receive a min cash twice if I bag twice for day 2 while my smaller chip count gets removed from play.
We're managing and TD-ing everything BTW, in case you were wondering who will be making rulings and dealing and managing the clock etc. Everything will follow 100% our top-quality standards, no exceptions.
In any case, for that particular event, the live flights play down to 10% of that day's starting field and indeed everyone who qualifies is in the money. However this is more of a traditional best-stack-forward event and there are no payments immediately upon qualifying nor payments for forfeited stacks as there are for other events. The impetus to play multiple Day 1s in this case is to give yourself the largest stack possible for Day 2 and the money.
That being said, because everyone is itm by Day 2, there's no bubble so action should be fast and there should be some great opportunities to ladder up the pay jumps.
In terms of simply buying directly into Day 2 - this should be possible but is not guaranteed - there is a hard cap of 560 players to start Day 2, and if that is reached via the 28 Day 1 starting flights (online and live) then no one will be allowed to buy in directly on Day 2.
lastly - note that ALL payouts for the GPPT will be made via Partypoker and you must have a partypoker account to play.
So let's say you play Day 1a ($170 b/i total) and make it to the end - $400.
So then you decide to play Day 1d ($250 b/i total) and make it to the end - $400, immediately. Then, within a few hours once we've verified that you qualified a 2nd time - we'll leave a coupon at the cage that you can pick up the next day for another $1500.
In this case you would start on Day 2 with only the single largest of your 2 qualifying stacks - but you will also have already been paid $2,300 - before you even show up for Day 2.
Can you please post or link to the payout structure? Assuming there are 5,000 entries and 500 get paid, what will the min-cash be?
How much of the $1,100 buy-in goes to the prize pool, e.g., $970 (+ $30 for 3% staff gratuities + $100 fee) for 11.8% rake? partypoker's rake is 8.2% (U$78+U$7), and the rake for the live flights is 11.0% ($97+$3+$9).
Is Playground's tournament capacity 560 players, i.e., 56 tables?
I hated the "Quantum Reload" when I first read about it years ago, but this seems better than the GPPT restriction.
Every additional time: $400 plus an additional $1500 for the forfeited stack.
Start day 2 only with your largest stack.
BTW I'm not 100% sure but I think a lot of the prominent critics of the OLD "Quantum reload" format - which is NOT this - turned around and support this format, or are at least neutral about it.
The other benefit is that you don't have to wait until Day 2 to get paid - payments will be made either immediately when you bag or the next day (once it's officially verified) in the case of the $1,500.
-why is there a hard cap exactly? Wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest to have as many entries as possible? Unless as BF stated, the room itself cannot bare more then 560.
-I would have preferred to be ITM for every GPPT day 1 finish, taking only the largest stack and forfietting the rest.
-The GPPT day 2 buy in is $1,100, but in actuality it's less because we are already ITM correct?
-the quantum event. I haven't read it's rules intirely but as it progresses the buy in becomes bigger?
-Why exactly are the payouts so big if you qualify twice? ($1500) is it this way to encourage ppl to fire as many bullets into this event as possible?
It's essentially a "traditional" Best-Stack-Forward tournament - except with 28 starting days, and a very low buy-in relative to the Guarantee. Plus, usually in a next-day re-entry of the style we usually do, it stops after a certain number of levels and well before players are itm, so when you arrive for Day 2 you have some navigating to do before the bubble and then a bubble to get through.
I think the idea is that the price point is low enough that you can shoot multiple flights to try and get to Day 2 with a monster stack. Since the GTD is so high, it's worth it for $109 to keep shooting. At least that's the concept - obviously everyone has their own judgement on that.
I haven't yet seen the payout structure - I'll see what I can do in the next few days. I wouldn't expect anything much different from any tourney that pays out 10% of the field. Possibly a little flatter at the bottom to make sure players can cover a few Day 1 buy-ins with their min-cash but I'm not sure.
The hard cap is there because that's pretty much the limit we can seat in any single tournament at once. It's also built into the Partypoker GPPT formula, although the number goes up and down depending on the room. I do think there's at least a small amount of scarcity built in, but I'd be amazed if we actually hit the 560 qualifiers even with 28 starting flights.
-Correct for the Day 2 buy-in.
-In the Quantum - visit the landing page for the event and you can see the different buy-ins on different days. Note that the buy-in amount controls a couple of things. A. What % make it to Day 2; and, B. starting stack on the Day 1. https://www.playgroundpoker.ca/worldcupofcards2016#tab2
-For the Quantum, there's also a satellite for a "Day 2" seat - i.e., you win the sat, you start on Day 2 with 150K in chips, which will be exactly 62.5bbs.
-I can't give you an answer as to why the amounts in the Quantum are what they are - this was a format pioneered in LA and is "owned" by a TD at a card room there. It's a progression from the older Quantum Reload idea which was not well received.
One last thing - it's not identified as a WCC event, but concurrently we will also be hosting what is now called the WPT National Montreal. See https://www.playgroundpoker.ca/wptnationalmontreal2016 for more info. The buy-in has changed compared with what we thought it would be when we first published, but it's essentially the same tournament.
I thought the WPT $500+$65 was part of WCC, but $540+$60 is even better, with rake going down to 10%. There is also no separate 3% withholding, correct?
In conclusion, all the various tour events at Playground are more +EV than Las Vegas, so I look forward to playing them all. :h: I'm willing to BAP people into GPPT, and I'll create a separate thread.
Edit July 23: I'm very sorry but I made an error. The standard 3% withholding will apply as usual to all LIVE flights of the GPPT.
Anybody else looking at going that weekend?
There's a couple of AirBnBs close by that would be good value for 3 or 4 ppl.
I am thinking to make trip, just not sure when possible first week of September
I'm still looking for somebody to verify my Quantum and GPPT EV equations.
The WSOP has the best practice of making it clear what doesn't go into the players' prize pool, e.g., "7% of total entry pool withheld for entry fees, 3% withheld for tournament dealers & staff." I don't have a problem with the 3% staff gratuities as I see the poor dealers in the withholding-free Ontario casinos not being tipped a single cent,
It's excellent that the WPT 500, Quantum, GPPT, CPPT and PPC widely-varying structures are finally making their Canadian debut at Playground. I like trying to figure out how to solve different puzzles.
I'm shocked that there seems to be no interest in 2+2 for the World Cup of Cards, but at least there are a few forumers going.
I've noticed discrepancies for the GPPT info between partypoker & Playground, but I'll save my GPPT and other WCC questions when the structure sheets are posted.
1) For somebody who has won or bought a $109 Playground GPPT entry, can it be used online instead, just like a U$85 partypoker entry can be used at Playground? If Playground will be using 20 minute levels instead of the GPPT standard 30 minutes, I prefer to play more online flights.
2) Playground players will not require a partypoker.com account unless they cash in the GPPT?
3) GPPT - Canada lists 1d and 1h as the 15-minute Turbo flights, instead of 1a and 1e. I want to make sure I play the non-turbo flights.
4) Will the 10% who make it to Day 2 be rounded, e.g., 13 finalists if there are 125-134 players and 14 finalists if there are 135-144?
5) If there are multiple eliminations on the final hand of Day 1, the extra eliminated player will not get a min-cash (e.g., 13th place in the first example above)?
6) If late registration is until the end of the break following Level 6, it may be better to have the first break after Level 6 (two hours) instead of Level 4/5.
7) For the Day 2 (re-)entry, $970 of the $1,100 buy-in goes to the prize pool ($970 + $30 + $100)?
8) If I have a Day 2 stack for the min-cash, do I have the option of buying into Day 2 for $1,100 and forfeiting my lower stack?