Done with online poker

I've had it. I can't win as an 80% favourite, can't win as a 94% favourite. Its ridiculous.

PokerStars Hand #106485376673: Tournament #807537421, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (1250/2500) - 2013/11/04 1:38:29 ET
Table '807537421 15' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: fifthbro (898 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: djgolfcan (72705 in chips)
Seat 3: Giwrgos351 (80912 in chips)
Seat 4: cpl19 (14354 in chips)
Seat 5: marquiño71 (71887 in chips)
Seat 6: andresssss20 (21852 in chips)
Seat 7: Roman0088 (86192 in chips)
Seat 8: lckd69 (28227 in chips)
Seat 9: truepack (26943 in chips)
fifthbro: posts the ante 310
djgolfcan: posts the ante 310
Giwrgos351: posts the ante 310
cpl19: posts the ante 310
marquiño71: posts the ante 310
andresssss20: posts the ante 310
Roman0088: posts the ante 310
lckd69: posts the ante 310
truepack: posts the ante 310
truepack: posts small blind 1250
fifthbro: posts big blind 588 and is all-in
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to djgolfcan [Ac As]
djgolfcan: raises 3750 to 5000
Giwrgos351: raises 75602 to 80602 and is all-in
cpl19: folds
marquiño71: folds
andresssss20: folds
Roman0088: folds
lckd69: folds
truepack: folds
fifthbro: folds
djgolfcan: calls 67395 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (8207) returned to Giwrgos351
*** FLOP *** [2h 7c Qh]
*** TURN *** [2h 7c Qh] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [2h 7c Qh 7s] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
djgolfcan: shows [Ac As] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
Giwrgos351: shows [Js Jc] (a full house, Jacks full of Sevens)
Giwrgos351 collected 144276 from side pot
Giwrgos351 collected 5142 from main pot
djgolfcan finished the tournament in 65th place
fifthbro finished the tournament in 66th place
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Comments

  • Take a break from online poker, and just play live for a month or 2.
  • I've said it before and I'll say it again: to me, online poker is not worth the aggravation it can cause. You've giving yourself a heart attack, $2 at a time.

    Devo, turn off the computer and take a break from online. Spend some time reading a poker book then find a LIVE tournament you can get to and crush it. Like you just did at The Cave.

    I would rather spend time loving live poker instead of resenting online poker. Just my .02c
  • Live poker ain't any difference buddy, it's just poker. Even if you flop quad aces, your hand can lose. Nature of the beast.
  • Is this like the time that we werent going to see any more beat posts?

    BTW I think you underestimate how much luck is involved in this game. Once you accept that, it becomes way more enjoyable.
  • The worst and most unlikely things can happen playing poker, regardless of whether it's online or live. You just have to forget the beats and move on. You should also remember that luck works in your favour too. I'm sure you've won hands were you were statistically behind.

    If you can't handle the beats then don't play. End of story.
  • the problem with poker is that playing perfectly does not always equal winning in the short term.[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
  • Well said, trigs.

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  • djgolfcan wrote: »
    I've had it. I can't win as an 80% favourite, can't win as a 94% favourite. Its ridiculous.

    Well, you know what they say about luck, right Phil?
  • That "problem" is actually what makes poker so great for winning players. If bad players cannot win in the short run against skilled players, then it would be like chess and there would be no gambling money to be won. I learned to embrace the variance early in my poker education as I understood that if I keep making better decisions than my opponents, then I will keep winning money in the long run. I've gotten THOUSANDS of sick bad beats online, but I knew that by the end of each month, the variance would regress to the mean and I would end up on the winning side.
    trigs wrote: »
    the problem with poker is that playing perfectly does not always equal winning in the short term.[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
  • I took my worst beat in PLO yesterday, quad A to a rivered str8 flush. Chalk it up to variance. I am sure you have cracked AA before. It's so much more painful since u took your beats in the million and red spade Sunday.
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    That "problem" is actually what makes poker so great for winning players. If bad players cannot win in the short run against skilled players, then it would be like chess and there would be no gambling money to be won. I learned to embrace the variance early in my poker education as I understood that if I keep making better decisions than my opponents, then I will keep winning money in the long run. I've gotten THOUSANDS of sick bad beats online, but I knew that by the end of each month, the variance would regress to the mean and I would end up on the winning side.

    i still tilt. i don't know why and i can't help it.

    i've always been a very competitive person and i used to play a lot of sports in the past. when my team was losing, i would get upset but i could use my emotions to play harder and better. however, even if we lost one single season game, i'd be very distraught as i HATE losing. it would just motivate me to play better the next game. however, i'd have time to relax and practice between games. in poker, there's no time to relax after losing a big hand as the next one starts right away. and being emotional in poker is pretty much a negative in all regards. one day i may get a handle on it but who knows. i'll stick to playing poker for fun for now.
  • Oh the swings of poker.......
  • Play another million hands and see how you feel
  • I tilt when these things happen, but afterwards realize it's just variance.

    95% chance to win a hand still means you'll lose 1 in every 20 times. It's kind of low, but when you play so many hands of poker, the odds catch up to you.
  • I tilt when these things happen, but afterwards realize it's just variance.

    95% chance to win a hand still means you'll lose 1 in every 20 times. It's kind of low, but when you play so many hands of poker, the odds catch up to you.

    This is where I was going with my point. You play so many hands online and when the bad end of variance kicks in (usually pretty suddenly, and seems to last forever) it can really mess with ones headspace.

    Yes, you see the same sick shit in live games, but it doesn't seem to happen as often, due to the lower speed and quantity of hands.

    Make sense?
  • JohnnieH wrote: »
    This is where I was going with my point. You play so many hands online and when the bad end of variance kicks in (usually pretty suddenly, and seems to last forever) it can really mess with ones headspace.

    Yes, you see the same sick shit in live games, but it doesn't seem to happen as often, due to the lower speed and quantity of hands.

    Make sense?

    Just you wait . . . you will inevitably start dealing out the bad beats by the bucketful . . . and laughing inside while you do, no doubt. :D
  • JohnnieH wrote: »
    This is where I was going with my point. You play so many hands online and when the bad end of variance kicks in (usually pretty suddenly, and seems to last forever) it can really mess with ones headspace.

    Yes, you see the same sick shit in live games, but it doesn't seem to happen as often, due to the lower speed and quantity of hands.

    Make sense?

    Once you start dealing poker you'll see a shitload of crazy beats.
  • Yes I will see many bad beats, luckily I won't have any skin in the game.

    Actually I've seen a boatload at the Blackjack table. For example, like the time I dealt myself a 5, and everybody doubles down and rolled a Queen (16) then draw a five.

    I know all the latest swear words.
  • Once you start dealing poker, be prepared for:

    - players sitting out when it's your shift because they think you are RIGGED against them! :rolleyes: "That JohnnieH dealer hates me!"

    - players constantly telling you to wash the "unlucky" deck, change the" unlucky" deck, or fighting over a seat change to the one "lucky" seat.

    - miserable tilty players who will whip their cards right at you, or possibly even try to hurt you after a bad beat.

    - players who won't tip you a single dollar after a big pot or tournament cash.
    JohnnieH wrote: »
    ... you see the same sick shit in live games ...
  • JohnnieH wrote: »
    I've said it before and I'll say it again: to me, online poker is not worth the aggravation it can cause. You've giving yourself a heart attack, $2 at a time.

    Devo, turn off the computer and take a break from online. Spend some time reading a poker book then find a LIVE tournament you can get to and crush it. Like you just did at The Cave.

    I would rather spend time loving live poker instead of resenting online poker. Just my .02c
    can you recomande a good poker book?
  • trigs wrote: »
    the problem with poker is that playing perfectly does not always equal winning in the short term.

    ahmen to that
  • pokerpua wrote: »
    can you recomande a good poker book?

    Check-raising the devil
  • Phil Gordon's Little Green Book and Little Gold Book are okay.
    pokerpua wrote: »
    can you recomande a good poker book?
  • After experiencing many bad beats in a session it really messes with my game.
    I don't get the same value out of my good hands looking for monsters under the bed syndrome. When I get that I am "done" with poker feeling, I grab my headset, turn on a good audio poker book and get outside for a long walk.
  • I find live poker much more enjoyable if I find the right games with fun people. Find what games you enjoy playing, online or live, and play those games. Otherwise it's not worth your time. I don't find poker as enjoyable as I once did, but playing less and only when I really feel like it keeps it enjoyable for the most part. Think about why you play and seek out the right games. Are you playing just to make money? Do you enjoy the game as much as you once did? Do you play for the social aspect when playing live?

    I know that if I don't have games with fun people to talk to then I no longer enjoy playing. if I play games with a bunch of asstards wearing sunglasses who are trying to grind out a living at 1/2 NL, Hollywooding $40 pots and taking 30 seconds to act every time it's their action or if I play depressing games where people care too much about the money then I can't play many sessions without questioning why I am wasting my time sitting in a casino. If I find the right games with fun people then I can put in a few sessions a week.

    For me it's a fun challenge to try and keep winning like I used to given that I don't have the same level of interest in the game as years ago when I would play 24h+ sessions in underground games in Toronto. I find that the games in California really made me lose interest in playing as most of the tables there are 80% desperate grinders with nothing interesting to say, ever. Now that I'm back in AB I am starting to enjoy the game again as there is a much more social aspect involved.
  • I pretty much agree with everything that has been said in this thread.

    I wish to someday play the games in Alberta just by going off GTA's glowing word... lately here the past couple sessions I've been has been nothing but older miserable people who just don't shut up about their straight draws that never come in... blah.

    Online is fun.. but damn it pisses me off more then any live beat I have taken that is for sure.
  • Macke wrote: »
    Online is fun.. but damn it pisses me off more then any live beat I have taken that is for sure.

    I went through a phase of that, but then I realized it's just because you're sitting at home in your comfy environment where nobody is going to say "what an asshole" when you lose your mind. Unless you're married, or have dogs that leave the room when you get up with that look on your mug.

    Live, you're not likely to break the social inhibitions you would in your own home thus you hone your rage into a controllable event.

    It's kind of sad really. Luckily, I'm relatively balanced.
  • I find that the more I need the money, or the bigger the buy-in, the more upset I get at a bad beat. If its a $1 buy-in, meh, who cares. If its the Sunday Million and its half my bankroll, look out.

    I did swear and slam the table at Brantford when that stupid 4 hit the river cracking my Kings and knocking me out in 8th place. I really need the money right now as my wife is out of work. Which is why the beats are getting to me more because I am trying to supplement our income with poker and its not going according to plan.

    It started out ok with the Cave score and BCC but online has been brutal. I think I would be better off getting a part time job instead.
  • GTA Poker wrote: »
    I find live poker much more enjoyable if I find the right games with fun people. Find what games you enjoy playing, online or live, and play those games. Otherwise it's not worth your time. I don't find poker as enjoyable as I once did, but playing less and only when I really feel like it keeps it enjoyable for the most part. Think about why you play and seek out the right games. Are you playing just to make money? Do you enjoy the game as much as you once did? Do you play for the social aspect when playing live?

    I know that if I don't have games with fun people to talk to then I no longer enjoy playing. if I play games with a bunch of asstards wearing sunglasses who are trying to grind out a living at 1/2 NL, Hollywooding $40 pots and taking 30 seconds to act every time it's their action or if I play depressing games where people care too much about the money then I can't play many sessions without questioning why I am wasting my time sitting in a casino. If I find the right games with fun people then I can put in a few sessions a week.

    For me it's a fun challenge to try and keep winning like I used to given that I don't have the same level of interest in the game as years ago when I would play 24h+ sessions in underground games in Toronto. I find that the games in California really made me lose interest in playing as most of the tables there are 80% desperate grinders with nothing interesting to say, ever. Now that I'm back in AB I am starting to enjoy the game again as there is a much more social aspect involved.


    I play for the game and the money
  • pokerpua wrote: »
    I play for the game and the money

    I also like the social aspect of anything
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