Rake-free satellites to WSOP/WPT!

Whenever I play at a poker room, there is a buzz among both players and staff about heading to the WPT, WSOP or other upcoming big events. I'm hoping that there are enough poker players left in this forum that want to take at least one final shot at playing in the WPT or WSOP-C event in Canada this year.

A forumer is willing to host a rake-free home game satellite in Georgetown, Ontario. Unlike other home games or clubs, 100% of buy-ins will go to the prize pool, with no optional deductions, so it is 100% legal. OPP lurkers are welcome to play in the satellite, but BYOB! :)

Events can include the following:
- CPT (Canadian Poker Tour) Montreal Mega Stack $1,500 Main Event, September 29 - October 2.
- $1,090 Casino Brantford, September 29.
- $1,100 Great Blue Heron Casino Fall Classic, October 9.
- $660, Casino Point Edward, October 23-26.
- WSOP-C River Rock $1,675 Main Event, November 2-7.
- WSOP-C Gatineau $1,675 Main Event, November 22-24.
- WPT Montreal $3,850 Main Event, November 29 - December 5.

The same blinds and house rules will be used in the satellite to simulate the actual event as much as possible. Players that participated in these satellites went on to cash in the event.

Anybody have a SERIOUS interest?
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  • Is this in Calgary?
  • GTA Poker wrote: »
    Is this in Calgary?
    Thanks for the bump, but it clearly states "Georgetown, Ontario."
  • I would be interested in a satellite for either of the WSOPCs and for the Brantford 1k.
  • what's the rake?
  • GTA Poker wrote: »
    what's the rake?
    Have you gone undercover with the police?
    Zero, nada, zilch, 0, nothing, zippo, null, 0.00%, Gabbo.

    There are already seven players interested, so if you keep bumping this everyday, maybe three more of our buddies from the Ontario Provincial Police Illegal Gambling Unit will sign up, and the first satellite can go-go-go before the big events start on September 29, saving the players hundreds of dollars in rake.
  • Make that eight...
  • what are we looking at for entry fee ranges?
  • The lowest event buy-in is $600+60 for the Blue Water Classic, so the buy-in for a ten-player satellite can be as low as $66+0. If players prefer to win a $1503.50+$46.50+$125 WSOP-C ME entry, then the buy-in would be at least $170+0.

    Possible dates so far include Thursday night, September 19 or Sunday night, September 15. If anybody interested cannot make either of those nights, please post the days that you would be willing to commit playing on.
    Muddguts wrote: »
    what are we looking at for entry fee ranges?
  • Who pays gas? Should we plan it so that it takes place on the weekday with historically lowest gasoline prices and find a Prius in which to carpool?
  • Can we at least just try to let Blondefish have a dedicated poker related thread? The man is trying to get more poker related discussion on here (doing a good job as well) and I'd hate to see his efforts clouded.

    Just sayin'.
  • I tried replying to your PM but your mailbox is full.

    I'd likely be okay for playing this coming Sunday assuming it's like a 3-5pm start time earliest. I'm in Vancouver from the 18th-22nd. Starting the 23rd, I'm pretty free to play every day until Sept 29th. That's when work picks up again and my schedule will be a bit more variable.

    Can you post the structure you're planning on using?
  • I tried replying to your PM but your mailbox is full.
    Sorry, I have now deleted all my old PMs from the WPT NAPC years when there was so much interest in rake-free WPT satellites, but very few ended up running. I was forced to play the high-rake crapshoot satellites at the casino and paid thousands of dollars in rake. :-\
    Can you post the structure you're planning on using?
    The host is willing to be very flexible so that players will save hundreds of dollars in rake, but the challenge is to find eight more committed players who are willing to be half as flexible as the host. Assuming the majority are interested in playing for the $1,675 WSOP-C ME at River Rock or Casino Lac-Leamy, then we can use a similar WSOP-C structure, e.g.,
    - 20,000 starting chips
    - 25/50, 50/100, 75/150, 100/200, 100/200+25, 150/300+25, 200/400+50, etc.
    - In order for this ~$210 satellite not to last four days like the real ME, we can have 15 (or 20) minute levels.

    Eliminated players have the option to play a rake-free cash game or low buy-in SNGs. I remember having to multi-table for an online Sunday Major while playing the satellite, so Wi-Fi is available; I donked out of the satellite early but made money online. :D

    In case any of the participants wants free poker swag, I still have a lot of unused card decks, poker hats, etc. that I can bring.
  • Equity or non?
  • GTA Poker wrote: »
    Who pays gas? Should we plan it so that it takes place on the weekday with historically lowest gasoline prices and find a Prius in which to carpool?

    GTA mostly you're just annoying but this is beyond funny. Kudos.
  • The objective is for the players to save hundreds of dollars of paying rake to the casino so the host is willing to be very flexible. One person may prefer 30% & another person may prefer 5%, but hopefully there will be 10 players willing to be flexible for at least one satellite to run. What do you think is a reasonable range?
    westside8 wrote: »
    Equity or non?
  • How much interest so far? Enough to get something set up for Sunday? Fwiw, I don't mind the buy-in being a bit higher to accommodate for a smaller field.

    In regards to equity tournament, doesn't really matter to me but I wouldn't want the number to be more than 20% max.
  • Mathers wrote: »
    GTA mostly you're just annoying but this is beyond funny. Kudos.

    Please don't encourage me.
  • How much interest so far? Enough to get something set up for Sunday? Fwiw, I don't mind the buy-in being a bit higher to accommodate for a smaller field.

    In regards to equity tournament, doesn't really matter to me but I wouldn't want the number to be more than 20% max.
    I'll settle for a range of 0-50% just to get ONE satellite started, but some players want 30%; some can make it only on Sunday night, others can only go on Thursday night. Finding enough FLEXIBLE players is a huge challenge, so it will probably require us to spread the word to people who actually play in poker rooms and are planning to go to the WSOP/WPT venue to play raked satellites. I'm playing at Woodbine and Fallsview this weekend, but unless I miraculously find enough flexible players who can commit to playing, the satellite probably won't happen before September 19.
  • Yeah, I'd be interested as well, but can only commit to Friday nights and Saturdays. Sunday through Thursday is out for me.

    I'd also be more interested in a multi-table scenario as opposed to a single table satty.
    If facilities are a problem, I have access to a good location that can hold up to 5 or 6 tables. There'd be a small rental charge, but would still be a very good deal.
  • Card Dead wrote: »
    If facilities are a problem, I have access to a good location that can hold up to 5 or 6 tables. There'd be a small rental charge, but would still be a very good deal.
    How much would you charge the players for the rental of that location and 5-6 tables?
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    How much would you charge the players for the rental of that location and 5-6 tables?

    Whatever it costs - no extra charges.

    Rather not discuss actual $ on a public forum, but willing to discuss openly via PM.
  • How much interest so far? Enough to get something set up for Sunday? Fwiw, I don't mind the buy-in being a bit higher to accommodate for a smaller field.

    In regards to equity tournament, doesn't really matter to me but I wouldn't want the number to be more than 20% max.

    I would prefer the equity be lower until I can determine who the regs are in this game. If I feel the field is competitive, Im OK with the equity being bigger. If I feel I have a significant edge over the field, obviously I would rather there be a smaller, or no equity.
  • Wetts1012 wrote: »
    I would prefer the equity be lower until I can determine who the regs are in this game. If I feel the field is competitive, Im OK with the equity being bigger. If I feel I have a significant edge over the field, obviously I would rather there be a smaller, or no equity.

    +1

    I'm good with no equity. If the winner(s) want to sell some of their action they can do so separately if they choose. Also makes it more difficult if there are players you don't know or know of.
  • Card Dead wrote: »
    +1

    I'm good with no equity. If the winner(s) want to sell some of their action they can do so separately if they choose. Also makes it more difficult if there are players you don't know or know of.

    Doesn't that make the most sense? Shouldn't the winner of the satellite determine on their own how much equity they want to sell? After all, they did earn the complete buy-in by winning.
  • So if we did a monthly deepstack MTT Satellite Series on a Saturday around 5pm starting in October, do you think there would there be any interest out there?

    We could focus on local touneys $500 and up, as well as the ones mentioned above by BF. That way we'd have smaller buy-in events and as well as bigger ones.

    The location I have access to is generally available with ample parking and easy access off the 401, and just east of Milton which would make it pretty central for most ppl. With a minimum of 20 players, it'd only cost us <=$5 pp to rent the place for the evening, which is pretty decent for a place that size.

    Questions, comments, concerns?
  • Card Dead wrote: »
    So if we did a monthly deepstack MTT Satellite Series on a Saturday around 5pm starting in October, do you think there would there be any interest out there?
    Not if it's a raked illegal game. Even this rake-free ten-player 100%-legal satellite won't happen until we find more players who can be flexible with the date and equity.
  • IMHO, flexibility = ambiguity. Tough for people with families and/or day jobs to plan when it's a moving target. If we set a date and time I think we'd get more interest.

    And why the equity? Is that a deal-breaker?
  • Card Dead wrote: »
    IMHO, flexibility = ambiguity. Tough for people with families and/or day jobs to plan when it's a moving target. If we set a date and time I think we'd get more interest.
    I suggested this Thursday night, September 19, but not enough players have replied that they can make it.
    And why the equity? Is that a deal-breaker?
    The host personally prefers 30% equity, but is willing to be flexible if players are also flexible.

    After the travelling players come back from the high-rake games at VIP Room and Playground at the end of this month, hopefully we can find enough players in October that appreciate the extra thousands of dollars that can go to THEIR prize pool in rake-free WSOP/WPT satellites instead of to casino profits. Once we find < 8 more COMMITTED players that are willing to live with equity such as ~15%, then I'll set a date and time.
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